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Wow! Not much more to say. Just, wow! OK, see you Monday...

Still here? Alright, lets talk about the carnage. I'm guessing that if you are still reading these commentaries that you may have had some money in the G or F funds as anyone who has taken the full brunt of this market collapse in 2008, probably has something better to do on a Friday than talk about it.

Another 5.1% to 7.5% declines in the stock funds. The L2040-fund is now down about 43%. There haven't been too many strategies that have worked this year, except for cash and bonds (G and F-funds).

The S&P 500 is now firmly below the 840 support level, actually 10.5% below, and we are in a new leg down. That doesn't mean we will go straight down, but any hopes of 840 being tested, holding, and being the bottom, are now gone. A relief rally is almost certainly imminent, but how much we go up, and how long it lasts, is a big question mark.


Chart provided courtesy of www.decisionpoint.com

As you can imagine, the indicators are extremely oversold, and the sentiment surveys are very bearish. We still have that Rydex Cash Flow ratio indicator telling us that investors seem to be less bearish than the surveys suggest, but that indicator did tick down slightly in the past two days. It is no where near panic levels however. Far from it. That remains troublesome.

When the VIX reversed up after hitting the lower Bollinger Band earlier this month, we suggested that it may try to make it's way back to the upper band, near 80. Here we are.


Chart provided courtesy of www.decisionpoint.com

Is it possible that it will go higher than the record readings we had in October? Anything is possible. I guess - what would we expect in a market environment that is being described more and more with the word depression, rather than recession? The difference this time versus the 1930's is that those of us on the bread lines will have our iPhones and iPods to keep us busy.

Bonds, which I thought had run out of steam a week or so ago, have seen a new wave of buying from those looking for safety. I have never seen a rally quite like this in bonds before, and I suspect it is panic buying that will quickly pull back once sanity kicks in again. Why the F-fund is not skyrocketing is beyond me. Maybe I am missing something, but I think the F-fund should be up 5% to 10% this month, rather than the 2% that it is. If anyone can shed some light on this for us, I'd love to hear it.



Chart provided courtesy of www.decisionpoint.com

The dollar has picked up steam as well, as the pullback to the 20-day moving average may be all that we see. If it can make a new high above the recent double top, it should be off to the races again. Pretty amazing considering how much interest rates have come down recently. Is this all just smoke and mirrors, or is the rest of the world really that much worse off?


Chart provided courtesy of www.decisionpoint.com

Thankfully, I was out of the market yesterday after catching the big losses on Wednesday. I am out of transfers in November and am just hoping that the market doesn't take off without me. For anyone out of transfers, the soonest we can be buyers again is on Monday morning December 1, to be in stocks for Tuesday the 2nd. If I am still thinking about buying, that probably means the market has not bottomed yet.

Well, that's about as much fun as I can take in a week.
Thanks for reading again, and have a great weekend!!

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  1. ATCJeff's Avatar
    I mentioned that no one should bet against the uptrend the dollar is currently experiencing. The dollar keeps on rising. Unbelievable. Now, why can't I apply this simple analysis to my own trading. We are obviously in a downtrend, yet here I am watching my account balance deteriorate. I should have never jumped in the market back in October and again this past week. Why can't I learn? That's a rhetorical question. Today's results does help, but I still have a long road ahead to get back to my all time high balance back in September of this year.

    Have a great weekend everyone,

    Jeff
  2. tsptalk's Avatar
    You nailed that call. It looks like it wants to go higher. Did you hear Peter Shiff (sp?) say that this rally in the dollar will fail and it will eventually "collapse"? A little extreme, but he's been the broken clock that is finally right.

    Not to sound defensive, but I was looking for a short-term pullback to the 20 dma, 50 dma ,and possibly the support line. It only made it to the 20 dma but that was enough for the I-fund to outperform this week.

    This week's returns:
    C = -8.32%
    S = -11.86%
    I = -6.57%

    Now the dollar can continue higher.

    From last Friday's commentary:
    I am not saying that the I-fund will go up. But if the dollar does pull back, look for the I-fund to do a little better than the C and/or S funds - whether they are going up or down.

    I would look for the dollar to pullback to the 20-day moving average, the 50-day moving average, and possibly even to the rising support line, which would be a 2%, 6%, or 8% decline respectively from the current level. This is a short-term observation and all bets will be off if the dollar does reverse up and make a new high.
    Updated 11-23-2008 at 10:20 AM by tsptalk (updated returns thru Friday)
  3. Bullitt's Avatar
    Did you hear Peter Schiff say that this rally in the dollar will fail and it will eventually "collapse"?
    Believe it or not I've been a fan of Peter for a long time, even as the market was hitting new highs. Yep, I'm not surprised at his 'most recent' prediction. His idea of asset allocation is

    1. Buy gold
    2. Build a bomb shelter
    3. Store all your gold in a bomb shelter.

    Now the dollar can continue higher
    US Dollar failed it's breakout attempt today but is beginning to remind me of equities in 2006.
  4. tsptalk's Avatar
    There were a few people on this board basically laying exactly out what we are seeing, ala Peter Shiff. The problem with that is that you can't make money being 3 or 4 years early.

    The same situation will present itself on the upside where some folks will be laying out the bullish / bottom case for another year or two, before the market finally turns around.

    That is why I'm not big of the fundementals but rather in the technicals / charts. My return sucks this year but we have all been looking for the head and shoulders to break with targets getting lower and lower.

    The fundies tell us what may happen. The charts are much better at telling us when it happens. I just have to figure out how to make money with this information.
  5. coolhand's Avatar
    That's a big lesson I've learned Tom. All those fundamental arguments we see all over the internet only provide a theoretical economic landscape for the future. But so much can be done to manipulate the underlying principles that one cannot bet on any given chain of events. Even if one is right, there's the question of timing. It can and does take take years to play out many economic scenarios. I've been reading Mish Shedlock for years, and even though I've largely agreed with his positions on the economy, it does me little good to use it in any meaningful way to trade my account.
  6. Bullitt's Avatar
    Absolutely. Those are great points. Harry Dent had a great thesis as well but he was off by about 10 years. People forget that Peter Schiff was pumping China and commodities when he published his last book, Crash Proof. He also strongly recommended that investors put their money in foreign currency as well. Anything can happen in the future, but those who followed his advice are sitting in a pretty deep hole right now. Like most of the theories, sometimes the long run really means 'the long run'.

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