Are we known by the company we keep ?

[grandma]

...a gathering in one place of the information that has filtered through some of the news outlets ...
Regardless of your views, your opinion of the writer, or if you think some of these folks are `right on track,' here it is to read at one place...
http://www.personalliberty.com/conservative-politics/7949/

:sick:

[nnuut]

Looks like he got the ones we know about, what scares me is the ones we DON'T know about!! In the 1950s he would have never been able to run with a list of associates like that. Have things changed that much in the values that Americans think are important, if so we need Help! 7073

[phil]

Here's a thought: why don't you look up the author, Bob Livingston, on the internet. Is this the same Bob Livingston who resigned from Congress?:D

We are indeed to be known by the company we keep.

This is funny on just so many levels. I really got a kick out of this post.

[nnuut]

Yeah, sure Phil.:blink:

[phil]

Yep. Bob Livingston wrote the article. :laugh:
We definitely need some help, particularly for those good old American values.


Have things changed that much in the values that Americans think are important, if so we need Help! 7073

[grandma]

Yep. Bob Livingston wrote the article. :laugh:
We definitely need some help.
...as what I included in the intro to the article was : regardless of your opinion of the author, I deem your comment to be a bit irrelevant - cuz I don't know the guy himself, which is why I said: `regardless of your opinion of the author,' now this seems to be an interesting list - considering we've been reading about these folks & their disinterest in following the laws the rest of us are jailed for.
Moving forward now -forget that part, and since, you are aquainted with him, know him & his reputation & character, I need to know what is in the listing that makes it questionable before I send it on to friends. Thanx, Phil, I appreciate your time & study; and, I will appreciate it greatly, if you will not bring in the wars, foreign countries, etc, just talk about the list & Mr. Livingston - as I am pressed for time. :) grandma

[James48843]

Here's a thought: why don't you look up the author, Bob Livingston, on the internet. Is this the same Bob Livingston who resigned from Congress?:D



Nope. Not the same one. This one is in Alabama.

Better Business Bureau lists him as:

Publishing Consultants, Vitamins & Food Supplements


Bob Livingston Letter
P O Box 3623
Hueytown, Alabama 35023
United States
7027430208
Fax -- 7029210208

http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/

He currently advocates "the health benefits of Zinc. "

His prior publication was an anti-Semetic pamphlet published in the 1970's called "Spiritual Communism"

http://cgi.ebay.com/Spiritual-Communism-by-Bob-Livingston_W0QQitemZ260252870350QQcmdZViewItemQQpt ZUS_Nonfiction_Book?hash=item3c9847a6ce



Here is a review of his writings "Spiritual Communism":
http://www.amazon.com/Spiritual-Communism-Age-of-Doublethink/product-reviews/B000GJYPVK/ref=dp_db_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1



and was editor for a while of the publication "Christians Awake".

His works were identified as "Mail order extremism" in the 1990's:

Christians Awake
PO BOX 3513 West End Station
Birmingham, Al 35211

"Christians Awake is a 21 year old newsletter ministry out of
Birmingham, Alabama. According to Bob Livingston, "head" of the
organization, National Socialism and Judaism are one in the same
thing. Freemasons, homosexuals, the Feds and the water
companies are all out to destroy, poison and mongrelize the white
race. Free newsletter on request."

Source: http://www.textfiles.com/magazines/WORLDVIEW/wv2-1

Grandma, I'd be careful about giving too much credit to, and helping spead
around writings by someone who is known for "National Socialism and Judaism are one in the same
thing. Freemasons, homosexuals, the Feds and the water companies are all out to destroy, poison and mongrelize the white
race. Free newsletter on request."

Not my cup of tea.

Sure, he has a right to say whatever he wants to say.

But I, for one, would not like to be the one to further his cause.

[phil]

This guy sounds even better. I would think twice about sending this one around. Then again, my political leanings are a bit left of center, but I really don't want to appear to want to censor any sort of free speech, even speech with which I may disagree. You may consider my comment irrelevant, but we are known for the company we keep.

I won't talk about foreign wars, as we don't have time. But I would like to talk briefly about American values. Is this what we're trying to do in America? Are these really American values?

[grandma]

Grandma, I'd be careful about giving too much credit to, and helping spead
around writings by someone who is known for "National Socialism and Judaism are one in the same
thing. Freemasons, homosexuals, the Feds and the water companies are all out to destroy, poison and mongrelize the white
race. Free newsletter on request."

Not my cup of tea.
.
..nor mine either! Thank you, guys, much ! - And as for the Zinc - CSPI is suing Bayer for selling/tell menfolk that it protects against prostate CA, when in fact, it does the opposite...
I appreciate your watching out for me -as I have mentioned elsewhere, my browser works only prn, and sometimes I have to stay on a site forever just to be able to return to it later.... And forget getting into Google, Snopes, or even places I need to be NOW! - might get there 1 x oo 10, occassionally by a link. I am an avid Snopes fan, and the withdrawal gives me pain & hurts ! But, as I said, My Son To The Rescue - soon, I hope!! :rolleyes:
7074

[James48843]

.... But I would like to talk briefly about American values. Is this what we're trying to do in America? Are these really American values?

Here's a value for you to ponder Phil--

Redirect- what are your thoughts on this-

This is TSP Talk. We VALUE trying to reach for the great American dream- a secure financial future. You have yet to post much about YOUR investment style, or strategy. I'm a high-risk person myself. I have found myself, too often, rushing to chase a direction, only to lose a buck here or there in the process. I've learned a lot, and think I'm doing better now than was I was a decade ago- How about you? Are you a buy-and-hold guy, or a "G" funder, or what do you like to try to do in the investment scene in TSP?

[phil]

I tend to be a bit risk-averse right now, and am in G by 98%. I tend to slide in during periods of what I think are low market volatility. I have been in 40-40-20 in other funds, but I wait for market falls to get moving in.

Right now, with the dollar, I'd like to wait out October and wait and see whither the I fund goes, and keep monitoring F for a sharp rise/fall. Today's action looked too interesting, with a tremendous and sharp fall from green to red about mid-day. Puzzling.

All new money I put in goes into the I fund/L2040, but I may IFT a chunk into I after I think the market is settling. Today showed me some pretty wild volatility.

Risk-averse/opportunistic. I'm waiting for the market to sink tomorrow, then I may? buy in, if it's enough. Japan/China/AORD market are all down tonight. It could just be a burp, but I doubt it. My homepage carries all three. Patience. By the way, my judgment isn't golden. My PIP is -1.3% for the last year. I was slightly exposed during the October slide last year, thinking the damage was already done. It wasn't. But I did call it by dumping out before in December 2007. I read what was happening to the REITs from Fitch ratings. I should've stayed out but couldn't resist fishing. Sometimes, greed is punished.

[James48843]

I tend to be a bit risk-averse right now, and am in G by 98%. ...... I'm waiting for the market to sink tomorrow, then I may? buy in, if it's enough. Japan/China/AORD market are all down tonight. It could just be a burp, but I doubt it.

Yep. I think we're due for a rest. We'll have to wait and see if this is a relief spell, or just a pause on the way higher. I have a burning sensation that we're about to see a nice big pullback. the earnings and company health in general does not indicate to me a sustained upward move here.I think we're due for a rest. But we'll see.


...I should've stayed out but couldn't resist fishing. Sometimes, greed is punished.Greed does get punished.

Pigs get fat.

Hogs get slaughtered.

Learned that one the hard way.

Be careful out there.

[tsptalk]

Then again, my political leanings are a bit left of center,
Not that there is anything wrong with that, but that is a funny post, and is the understatement of the month. :laugh:

I'll assume you were joking.

[phil]

Sometimes the left and the right are just terms. It originates from where the "radicals" in the French revolution sat in the assembly. Those "leftists" only wanted a French republic with universal suffrage for the people of France. The rightists on the other side wanted a return to the monarchy/Catholicism in the country.

I would've probably sat on the left side, but it doesn't mean I wouldn't have to listen to the right side, even though I may disagree. In the end, almost all of Europe emulated French society at the time, and embraced democracy in some form.

Me, I tend to think that I'm further to the right than what most people think. Maybe far to the right. Almost every European country has some form of a communist party that is able to bring about social change. In a lot of places, they're not necessarily as bad as what you may think, particularly in places that have a highly rigid social structure. Before Saddam Hussein took over Iraq, he eliminated all of the communists. They represented a danger to his control.

I once spoke to a retired oil company executive. He was a normal guy living abroad with his wife. But he really embraced what the far left was doing. I didn't really find this strange, all things considered.

Not that there is anything wrong with that, but that is a funny post, and is the understatement of the month. :laugh:

I'll assume you were joking.

[CountryBoy]

...a gathering in one place of the information that has filtered through some of the news outlets ...
Regardless of your views, your opinion of the writer, or if you think some of these folks are `right on track,' here it is to read at one place...
http://www.personalliberty.com/conservative-politics/7949/

:sick:

Grandma,

I know some people love to obfuscate, marginalize or all of a sudden lack of reading comprehension hits them when faced with the truth. I didn’t see anything that wasn’t fact in the link, but I sure as heck saw a lot of crawfishing, when hit in the face with the facts. Simple question and a very simple answer, he!! yeah, you can judge a person by who he hangs with. You sure as heck don’t hang with folks that you hate or disagree morally/ethically with.

And I’m not the least bit surprised by the ones putting up the most flak. I’ve posted several threads listing the czars and what folks think of them and all I heard was crickets. So they must approve and wish they could have these "people" as their friends and mentors.

And we know who the biggest obfuscators are (is that a word), but at least I didn't use the noun version of bravo sierra. :laugh:

Now off to the hospital. ThanK God, bHo care hasn't kicked in or my Dad would've been given a pain pill and sent home to die. At 85, he would've have used up his usefulness and the socialist would've have deemed hi not worthy of keeping alive. If we have a choice, then the obamatons and socialists can have the public plan and I'll gladly pay for my plan. But ya can't change back. ;)

CB

[grandma]

I didn’t see anything that wasn’t fact in the link

Thank you CB - and that was really the intention of my post -
Whatever/whomever said it, these were things we had already read elsewhere. They just happened to be all in one place, by a guy that apparently abhors what I believe in - I don't recall where I had seen his `liberty letter' sign-up sheet, but it must have been in a place I had a bit of respect for. :blink: I will watch for it, now.