Conservatives Only Please

[coolhand]

HOW TO START EACH DAY WITH A POSITIVE OUTLOOK

1. Open a new file in your computer.
2. Name it Barack Obama
3. Send it to the Recycle Bin.
4. Empty the Recycle Bin.
5. Your PC will ask you: "Do you really want to get rid of Barack Obama ?
6. Firmly Click Yes.
7. Feel better?


GOOD!

Tomorrow we'll do Nancy Pelosi.

[nnuut]

WOW!!! That feels SOOOO GOOD!! I did 7 in 2 minutes what a relief. I just can't wait until tomorrow!! 6808

[Buster]

Youz guyz:rolleyes::D

[coolhand]

WOW!!! That feels SOOOO GOOD!! I did 7 in 2 minutes what a relief. I just can't wait until tomorrow!! 6808

Yeah. That was funny. Got that my from friend Tekno. :D

[nnuut]

Tekno can be a funny guy!!!:laugh:

[James48843]

arg.

[nnuut]

Is there no where to hide?:notrust::laugh: They found us, OK BREAK it UP, back on your heads!!:eek:

[Show-me]

Cut and pasting the entire Congress is like euphoria. :D

[CountryBoy]

HOW TO START EACH DAY WITH A POSITIVE OUTLOOK

1. Open a new file in your computer.
2. Name it Barack Obama
3. Send it to the Recycle Bin.
4. Empty the Recycle Bin.
5. Your PC will ask you: "Do you really want to get rid of Barack Obama ?
6. Firmly Click Yes.
7. Feel better?


GOOD!

Tomorrow we'll do Nancy Pelosi.


Oh please, please, please, can we do Reid next? No wait .... maybe, maybe Waxman.... no, no lets do Barney ... oh so many to choose from and so little time. :laugh: And we still have the Czars. Dang, mustn't leave out tax cheat Rangel either ( no racism intended for those that love to play that card) ;)
CB

[CountryBoy]

Cut and pasting the entire Congress is like euphoria. :D

That would work, and we can just alphabetize them, and then start on the Czars. Hmmmm, that would reduce the time wasted deciding of which next worthless pol should be next. :D

CB

[Viva La Migra]

HOW TO START EACH DAY WITH A POSITIVE OUTLOOK

1. Open a new file in your computer.
2. Name it Barack Obama
3. Send it to the Recycle Bin.
4. Empty the Recycle Bin.
5. Your PC will ask you: "Do you really want to get rid of Barack Obama ?
6. Firmly Click Yes.
7. Feel better?


GOOD!

Tomorrow we'll do Nancy Pelosi.
I don't care who you are that's funny right there! :laugh:

[Frixxxx]

I deleted the ENTIRE DEMOCRATIC PARTY!!!!!!!!!!:nuts:

This afternoon I'm going for Geithner, the incredibly blind economist!

[Steadygain]

HOW TO START EACH DAY WITH A POSITIVE OUTLOOK

1. Open a new file in your computer.
2. Name it Barack Obama
3. Send it to the Recycle Bin.
4. Empty the Recycle Bin.
5. Your PC will ask you: "Do you really want to get rid of Barack Obama ?
6. Firmly Click Yes.
7. Feel better?


GOOD!

Tomorrow we'll do Nancy Pelosi.

GOLD STICKER for this one.

Thanks CH - I just noticed this :D:D

[alevin]

Howz about we go for GS/JPM/UBS first?

[Viva La Migra]

Howz about we go for GS/JPM/UBS first?
Don't forget Government Motors! :D

[coolhand]

The photo below captures a disturbing trend that is beginning to affect US wildlife.

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Animals that were formerly self-sufficient are now showing signs of belonging to the Democratic Party... as they have apparently learned to just sit and wait for the government to step in and provide for their care and sustenance.

This photo is of a Democratic black bear in Pennsylvania nicknamed . . .

Bearack Obearma.

:laugh:

[Buster]

Later that day..the social benefactor was seen bearing it all about how he felt about Obama's programs that the Elephants were saying he was suppose to be getting...

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b47/Atwater/bear.jpg

[coolhand]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWpU8sX10_4

[alevin]

Sorry CH, can't resist. WHY did the majority electorate go for the DNC choice? With respect, here's why.

http://men.style.com/gq/features/landing?id=content_10957

In 2007 I finally made it to the Bush White House as a presidential speechwriter. But it was not at all what I envisioned. It was less like Aaron Sorkin’s The West Wing and more like The Office.
“The fundamentals of our economy are strong,” we’d write. Because that’s what we’d been told. And as far as I could tell, the president was told the same thing by his economic advisers, led by Secretary Paulson. Paulson had been brought into the administration by Josh Bolten, the White House chief of staff. They’d both worked at Goldman Sachs.
The economic team the president put together at first included his friend Al Hubbard. He may have been a competent adviser; I really didn’t know him. The only thing I knew about Al was that he went around putting whoopee cushions on people’s chairs in the West Wing.
after chris, Jonathan Horn, and I learned about the president’s $700-billion-bailout proposal and drafted the remarks announcing it to a stunned nation, Ed said the president wanted to see us in the Oval Office. “This is the last bullet we have,” the president said at one point, referring to the bailout. “If this doesn’t work…” He shook his head, and his voice trailed off. That wasn’t good enough for me. If this doesn’t work, then what? We’re done? America is over?
Vice President Cheney was sent to the Hill to argue for our bill (a bill he may or may not have believed in) and was apparently hammered by House Republicans. There were reports that only four Republicans out of nearly 200 supported the plan. From what I was starting to glean about the whole scatterbrained operation, four seemed like too many. McCain was going to phone the president and urge him to call off the address and instead hold an emergency economic summit in Washington. If the president did speak that night, the McCain campaign didn’t want him to outline any specific proposal. The president’s political adviser, Barry Jackson, was blunt, calling McCain a “stupid pr***.”
Secretary Paulson wanted to pay more than the securities were likely worth in order to put more money into the markets as soon as possible. This was not how the president’s proposal had been advertised to the public or the Congress. It wasn’t that the president didn’t understand what his administration wanted to do. It was that the treasury secretary didn’t seem to know, changed his mind, had misled the president, or some combination of the three. When it was explained to him that his concept of the bailout proposal wasn’t correct, the president was momentarily speechless. He threw up his hands in frustration.
“Why did I sign on to this proposal if I don’t understand what it does?” he asked.
(In the weeks that followed, Paulson changed his spending priorities two or three times. Incredibly, he’d been given the power to do with that money virtually anything he pleased. All thanks to a president who didn’t understand his proposal and a Congress that didn’t stop to think.)
The real problem, which no one at the White House seemed willing to confront, was that the country already had tuned him out. The president didn’t have credibility anymore.
As Treasury started to use the bailout funds to invest directly in financial institutions, Ed wanted to come up with a name for the plan that made it sound better to the public, particularly conservatives who thought this was nothing more than warmed-over socialism. Yes, a catchphrase would solve everything. We started out with dark humor: the “I Can’t Believe It’s Not Capitalism” Plan; the MARX Plan. I suggested that we also apologize to the former Soviet Union and retroactively concede the Cold War.
When White House press secretary Dana Perino was told that 77 percent of the country thought we were on the wrong track, she said what I was thinking: “Who on earth is in the other 23 percent?” I knew who they were—the same people supporting the John McCain campaign. Me? I figured there was no way in hell any Republican would vote for that guy.
After Palin’s selection was announced, the same people who demanded I acknowledge the brilliance of McCain’s choice expected the president to join them in their high-fiving tizzy. It was clear, though, that the president, ever the skilled politician, had concerns about the choice of Palin, which he called “interesting.” That was the equivalent of calling a fireworks display “satisfactory.” “This woman is being put into a position she is not even remotely prepared for,” he said. “She hasn’t spent one day on the national level. Neither has her family. Let’s wait and see how she looks five days out.” It was a rare dose of reality in a White House that liked to believe every decision was great, every Republican was a genius, and McCain was the hope of the world because, well, because he chose to be a member of our party.



Me Talk Presidential One Day

Matt Latimer worked as one of Dubya’s speechwriters during the president’s final twenty-two months in office. He was there to help sell the surge to a skeptical public. He was there as we pretended that the fundamentals of the economy were strong. And he was there to see a president who failed to grasp his own $700 billion bailout package—even as he was pitching it to the American public on live TV. A disillusioned insider reveals for the first time just how messy things got

[coolhand]

Thanks for the link and story Alevin. It's a good one. There were many reasons why electorate did what they did. I will the be the first to admit I didn't like what the Republicans were doing across the board either.

Fact is, none of us will ever be completely happy with anyone. Kinda why I choose to speak up for an ideology rather than any one group or person. What a tangled web. :rolleyes:

But I still like humor for humor's sake. Every President bar none gets their turn in the dunk tank. :)

[alevin]

CH, humor is good and yes every pres gets a turn-here's one for both ends of the spectrum.

http://www.cagle.com/politicalcartoons/PCcartoons/booth.asp

[James48843]

It's the destiny of the nation:

jjXyqcx-mYY

[coolhand]

[CENTER]It's the destiny of the nation:



You see that? The title of the thread is "Conservatives Only Please" and you go and post that video. It's got to be all that sugar in the kool-aid. It's not good for you. :laugh:

[Viva La Migra]

You see that? The title of the thread is "Conservatives Only Please" and you go and post that video. It's got to be all that sugar in the kool-aid. It's not good for you. :laugh:
Is it sugar in the Kool-Aid or Reefer in the brownies?:blink:

[DAWG51]

HOW TO START EACH DAY WITH A POSITIVE OUTLOOK

1. Open a new file in your computer.
2. Name it Barack Obama
3. Send it to the Recycle Bin.
4. Empty the Recycle Bin.
5. Your PC will ask you: "Do you really want to get rid of Barack Obama ?
6. Firmly Click Yes.
7. Feel better?


GOOD!

Tomorrow we'll do Nancy Pelosi.

I'm not sure of his political status, but could we add Tony Romo to this list? Thanks, I feel better.

[Buster]

I'm not sure of his political status, but could we add Tony Romo to this list? Thanks, I feel better.
Amazing what 4 seconds even with a time out will do:(..Was a shame, I was pulling for the 31 to 30 victory over NYG.

[Viva La Migra]

Amazing what 4 seconds even with a time out will do:(..Was a shame, I was pulling for the 31 to 30 victory over NYG.
I just deleted Norv Turner. It felt so good!:embarrest:

[tsptalk]

http://www.tsptalk.com/images/mb/091209.gif (http://www.freedomworks.org/files/capitol%20view%20lo%20res.jpg)
Click image to enlarge

[CountryBoy]

Nice picture, and Gibbs said he wasn't aware of this. I hwonder if this is a reflection of the whole administration? :rolleyes:

CB, Self-identified Middle American

[coolhand]

Big Bird takes a shot! :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpJxZGSU5Co

[PessOptimist]

Big Bird takes a shot! :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpJxZGSU5Co

This video is no longer available. Embedding disabled by WHO"S request? I wanna see it and can't find it on You Tube. Was it funny? Was it political? Is this a vast right wing conspiracy? Where can I see this video clip? Why can I not see it?

[tsptalk]

This video is no longer available. Embedding disabled by WHO"S request? I wanna see it and can't find it on You Tube. Was it funny? Was it political? Is this a vast right wing conspiracy? Where can I see this video clip? Why can I not see it?
http://www.tonightshowwithconanobrien.com/video/clips/sesame-street-does-health-care-093009/1162397/#

[coolhand]

"President Obama has been explaining his healthcare plan now to senior citizens. And yesterday, at a town hall meeting, he promised the crowd that he will not, quote, 'pull the plug on Grandma.' Then, there was an awkward moment when Grandpa stood up and booed." --Conan O'Brien

[coolhand]

http://www.mofopolitics.com/2009/09/18/video-jay-leno-jokes-about-acorn-91709/

[PessOptimist]

http://www.tonightshowwithconanobrien.com/video/clips/sesame-street-does-health-care-093009/1162397/#

Thanks for the link. How can I save that little clip for future tormenting of people I know?

[coolhand]

In case anyone missed it. :laugh:

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/clips/obama-address/1163263/

[Boghie]

President Obama needs a medal or something...

[Boghie]

I just deleted Norv Turner. It felt so good!:embarrest:

Viva, a fellow San Diego travellor - eh...

Norv Turner is easily the worst active duty head coach in professional football.

He took a 14-2 team to 11-5 to 8-8 (needed four straight wins to pull that one out) to this years projected Super Bowl winning 4-12.

And, to admit to using LT as a 'decoy' the year after he scored 36 touchdowns wa truely amazing. When I heard he was selected I knew the Chargers would have their own version of a decade long depression.
\:(

[CountryBoy]

Guys,

I'd like an impartial opinion on the following please. And no fricking socialist need reply, because to tell the truth, I'm so tired of hearing that all our problems are a result of the last 8 years, that's it sounds like a broken record or something an ignorant kid would say.

"Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke has been piling up purchases of "mortgage-backed" securities to keep money flowing into the housing market. Though the Fed recently said it would slow its buying, the central bank now sits on a giant portfolio worth $650 billion. Here's the problem: If the Fed decides to raise interest rates to combat inflation, even a small hike would likely knock billions of dollars off the value of the Fed's holdings.

Mr. Kirk estimates that if rates go up two percentage points -- a plausible scenario given short-term rates are near zero now -- the Fed could lose $100 billion from its own balance sheet. The danger is that the mere existence of such a concern could become a self-fulfilling prophecy if the markets doubt the Fed would endanger its own financial welfare to fight inflation."

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/10/benankes_bomb.html

If the Feds do raise interest rates, which they'll have to do eventually, what impact is this going to have on our economy? Plain english would be of beneift to this old engineer. :laugh:

Thanks,

CB

[Show-me]

What the actual economy will do will be hard to predict. Raising rates will make the cost for businesses doing business higher and should make the US dollar stronger.

IMO, I would not count on a rate hike in the next 12 months especially if unemployment continues up to 10% and beyond.

The "market" is going higher, short term, because companies have cut cost. The "economy" is floundering because the worker has no job but is falling back on unemployment benefits and in turn is keeping a trickle of money going back into the economy.

No matter what happens remember this, it will take creation to 250,000 jobs a month average for five years to get us back to just 5% unemployment. The new folks on the poverty rolls don't even know they are there for a very long time.

[CountryBoy]

What the actual economy will do will be hard to predict. Raising rates will make the cost for businesses doing business higher and should make the US dollar stronger.

IMO, I would not count on a rate hike in the next 12 months especially if unemployment continues up to 10% and beyond.

The "market" is going higher, short term, because companies have cut cost. The "economy" is floundering because the worker has no job but is falling back on unemployment benefits and in turn is keeping a trickle of money going back into the economy.

No matter what happens remember this, it will take creation to 250,000 jobs a month average for five years to get us back to just 5% unemployment. The new folks on the poverty rolls don't even know they are there for a very long time.

Thanks Show-me,

That's what I was afraid of, but just wasn't sure whether I was interpreting it correctly.

CB

[Show-me]

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:d:d:d

[CountryBoy]

6968

:d:d:d

How true. :laugh:

[Buster]

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So what you have here is a classic case of the pot calling the kettle black....

You have a handful of little beggars on someone else’s porch begging for candy while thinking the giver is a Democrat for wanting to share theirs spoils that they just begged for, with under privileged kids that are not able to go out and get Halloween costumes or maybe physically disabled to be able to roam the streets at night like these greedy little troublesome hooligans are doing (probably soaping windows and putting burning bags of dog crap on porches of people that either didn't give them enough candy or did contribute at all to their tooth decay)..



There is always a way to put a spin on ANYTHING ;)

[CapeChem]

I guess how it should work is that the children recognizing how much candy they have will share their candy with those who truly need the candy and were unable to go trick. all this of course occurs with no pressure from the candy giver but from the goodness of their heart.

[coolhand]

Been meaning to post this. :nuts:

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[CountryBoy]

Been meaning to post this. :nuts:

6971

:laugh:

[nasa1974]

Been meaning to post this. :nuts:

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NO!!!!!

[nasa1974]

I guess how it should work is that the children recognizing how much candy they have will share their candy with those who truly need the candy and were unable to go trick. all this of course occurs with no pressure from the candy giver but from the goodness of their heart.


Back in my day (no 1800 jokes) almost every house had a light on for trick or treat. Some houses you actually had to perform a trick to get your treat and it wasn't unusual to get a hadful of candy corn dropped into the bottom of your bag or a fresh crisp apple. Didn't have to worry about checking your candy for hidden objects. Anyway to get to my point. The nuns would make us bring in half our candy for the poor. I always wondered if it was for their secret stash.:suspicious:

[CountryBoy]

NO!!!!!

http://www.laughatliberals.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/obama-emporer.jpg

Better? ;)

[nasa1974]

http://www.laughatliberals.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/obama-emporer.jpg

Better? ;)


NO!!! But pretty funny.


Rant on, shields up.

As far as Bush II he lost my respect when we went into Iraq. I honestly feel if he was still in office we would be on the ground in Iran. We have to learn to stop being the policemen of the world and that not everybody wants democracy.

Rant off, shields still up. :rolleyes:

[CountryBoy]

NO!!! But pretty funny.


Rant on, shields up.

As far as Bush II he lost my respect when we went into Iraq. I honestly feel if he was still in office we would be on the ground in Iran. We have to learn to stop being the policemen of the world and that not everybody wants democracy.

Rant off, shields still up. :rolleyes:

No need for shields up. Bush lost me shortly after he started his second term, due to his spending like a drunken sailor and his increasing the size of government. That's the main problem I have with bHo is his massive spending and involving government in private industry.

Our children will suffer for this 24/7 printing of money thru higher taxes and a lower quality of life if his socilalist agenda continues. He even said he wants to redistribute the wealth and I don't know what else to call that.

I have no problem not being the policeman of the world, but we better be able to handle the consequences of islamist fanatics finally getting the bomb and using it, because nukes decay over time (that's why we're always maintaining them), so when they get one they'll use it ASAP. :worried:

No use to replow the field anymore. :)

CB

[Frixxxx]

Nasa,

OK, when we go global, who will take care of the policies across the globe?

And if we go global, won't we need police to enforce global law?

And if we (United States of America) have been practicing the policemen bit for a few decades, won't they come to the North American Continent to hire policemen?

Sounds to me like we're securing our future by training our people to do the job now........:cool:

[Handballer]

Do I miss the man? Damn right!!!

This paragraph edited for content.

[coolhand]

http://www.theospark.net/2009/09/video-7-lies-in-under-2-minutes.html

He is following Saul Alinsky's "Rules For Radicals" perfectly. Tell the people what they want to hear, tell them you are from the middle class and can relate. Get elected, then eliminate the middle class.

[CountryBoy]

http://www2.hernandotoday.com/content/2009/oct/28/ha-over-the-top-but-on-the-mark/

Well at least one liberal writer and paper get's it somewhat or at least admits it. He mentions those pesky names again, they just keep floating to the top.

Alinsky's book being played out right before our eyes.

[coolhand]

From a flyover country newspaper:

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[Nordic]

No need for shields up. Bush lost me shortly after he started his second term, due to his spending like a drunken sailor and his increasing the size of government. That's the main problem I have with bHo is his massive spending and involving government in private industry.

Our children will suffer for this 24/7 printing of money thru higher taxes and a lower quality of life if his socilalist agenda continues. He even said he wants to redistribute the wealth and I don't know what else to call that.

I have no problem not being the policeman of the world, but we better be able to handle the consequences of islamist fanatics finally getting the bomb and using it, because nukes decay over time (that's why we're always maintaining them), so when they get one they'll use it ASAP. :worried:

No use to replow the field anymore. :)

CB

Not that I'm enjoying seeing my taxes being used for bailouts and extravagant bonuses, but certain components of the private sector including AIG, GS, Merrill...banking industry in general, Enron, Fannie, Freddy, GM, Chrysler, etc, etc. weren't doing such a swift job of running their businesses either.

While more/improved oversight might have helped avoid the mess we're in, we might also NOT be in this mess if these companies and industries were doing the right thing. That may sound overly simplistic, but imo we need to look at the source of the problem instead of the distasteful solution we're now having to swallow. I too would prefer a cheaper fix to the mess, but what is it? I hardly think status quo would cut it.

[coolhand]

Not that I'm enjoying seeing my taxes being used for bailouts and extravagant bonuses, but certain components of the private sector including AIG, GS, Merrill...banking industry in general, Enron, Fannie, Freddy, GM, Chrysler, etc, etc. weren't doing such a swift job of running their businesses either.

While more/improved oversight might have helped avoid the mess we're in, we might also NOT be in this mess if these companies and industries were doing the right thing. That may sound overly simplistic, but imo we need to look at the source of the problem instead of the distasteful solution we're now having to swallow. I too would prefer a cheaper fix to the mess, but what is it? I hardly think status quo would cut it.

I would like to see a third party with a serious chance to challenge the current political system come into play. Both Dems and Reps have entrenched themselves too deeply and have special interests at heart. But there's too much money in it and that's how these elections are largely won. With money.

[Frixxxx]

I would like to see a third party with a serious chance to challenge the current political system come into play. Both Dems and Reps have entrenched themselves too deeply and have special interests at heart. But there's too much money in it and that's how these elections are largely won. With money.
Try these guys:
http://www.constitutionparty.com/:cool:

[Nordic]

Mr. Geithner right on cue...

http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/provider/providerarticle.aspx?feed=OBR&date=20091029&id=10614352

[coolhand]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XivhwO_zWWg

[Birchtree]

That video really made me laugh - it's great.

[coolhand]

That video really made me laugh - it's great.

Some dogs are pretty smart. :laugh:

[coolhand]

Try these guys:
http://www.constitutionparty.com/:cool:

I like it! :)

[Show-me]

Yea, I'm game. I ordered their info. packet.

[tsptalk]

I would like to see a third party with a serious chance to challenge the current political system come into play. Both Dems and Reps have entrenched themselves too deeply and have special interests at heart. But there's too much money in it and that's how these elections are largely won. With money.
Unfortunately, the 3rd parties are only acting as spoilers in most elections these days. It will be interesting to see what the independant candidates will do to the New Jersey Governor race, and the New York Distict 23 representative race.

They say the incombant Jon Corzine (D) is so unpopular that he couldn't get more than 40% of the vote if he ran alone. That would seem like an easy victory for the republican (Christie). But throw in a conservative independant (Daggett) and the race is on. How many votes will Dagget take splitting the conservative vote?

There's a similar situation in the NY election. Let's see how these go. I hate that this is the case, but it is a reality.

[CountryBoy]

Not that I'm enjoying seeing my taxes being used for bailouts and extravagant bonuses, but certain components of the private sector including AIG, GS, Merrill...banking industry in general, Enron, Fannie, Freddy, GM, Chrysler, etc, etc. weren't doing such a swift job of running their businesses either.

While more/improved oversight might have helped avoid the mess we're in, we might also NOT be in this mess if these companies and industries were doing the right thing. That may sound overly simplistic, but imo we need to look at the source of the problem instead of the distasteful solution we're now having to swallow. I too would prefer a cheaper fix to the mess, but what is it? I hardly think status quo would cut it.

No problems here, I've been saying since Bush/Paulson started these wlefare bailouts, I was against them. I don't believe in rewarding failure. We should've let these companies file for bankruptcy or fail. Nature abhors a void and other more efficient companies would've stepped up and picked up the slack.

All we've done is kicked the can down the street by, at least quadruplng our deficit and crush our children's future.

One source of the problem is Congress and they continue to be a problem by excerbating the situation, by making easy money available.

CB

[Show-me]

Congress did not protect the citizens or the economy the protected their largest donors and lobbyist friends.

They are still gaming the system in unison.

[CountryBoy]

Unfortunately, the 3rd parties are only acting as spoilers in most elections these days. It will be interesting to see what the independant candidates will do to the New Jersey Governor race, and the New York Distict 23 representative race.

They say the incombant Jon Corzine (D) is so unpopular that he couldn't get more than 40% of the vote if he ran alone. That would seem like an easy victory for the republican (Christie). But throw in a conservative independant (Daggett) and the race is on. How many votes will Dagget take splitting the conservative vote?

There's a similar situation in the NY election. Let's see how these go. I hate that this is the case, but it is a reality.

Unfortunate but true. I'd love to have an actual viable 3rd party, but all we end up doing is dividing the conservative/Republican vote. :(

CB

[CountryBoy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XivhwO_zWWg

I sent that home. The girls loved it also.

[coolhand]

I'm having fun on this board. Glad to lighten the mood here and there CB. :)

[tsptalk]

Unfortunately, the 3rd parties are only acting as spoilers in most elections these days. It will be interesting to see what the independant candidates will do to the New Jersey Governor race, and the New York Distict 23 representative race.
....
There's a similar situation in the NY election. Let's see how these go. I hate that this is the case, but it is a reality.
Guess what? The liberal republican is in affect stepping out of this race (the one Newt Gingrich was backing) opening the door for the "spoiler" conservative party candidate, Hoffman, to potentially win.

Scozzafava suspends NY 23 campaign (http://www.politico.com/blogs/scorecard/1009/BREAKING_Scozzafava_drops_out_of_NY_23.html#)

[nnuut]

Guess what? The liberal republican is in affect stepping out of this race (the one Newt Gingrich was backing) opening the door for the "spoiler" conservative party candidate, Hoffman, to potentially win.

Scozzafava suspends NY 23 campaign (http://www.politico.com/blogs/scorecard/1009/BREAKING_Scozzafava_drops_out_of_NY_23.html#)
That's ONE!!!! Keep them coming.:rolleyes: Bye Bye, Obanana:laugh:

[CountryBoy]

A little levity and truth.

How the Gov't works.

Once upon a time the government had a vast scrap yard in the middle of a desert. Congress said, "someone may steal from it at night." So they created a night watchman position and hired a person
for the job.

Then Congress said, "How does the watchman do his job without instruction?" So they created a planning department and hired two people, one person to write the instructions, and one person to do time studies.

Then Congress said, "How will we know the night watchman is doing the tasks correctly?" So they created a Quality Control department and hired two people. One to do the studies and one to write the reports.

Then Congress said, "How are these people going to get paid?" So they created the following positions, a time keeper, and a payroll officer, then hired two people.

Then Congress said, "Who will be accountable for all of these people?"

So they created an administrative section and hired three people, an Administrative Officer, Assistant
Administrative Officer, and a Legal Secretary.

Then Congress said, "We have had this command in operation for one year and we are $18,000 over budget, we must cutback overall cost."

So they laid off the night watchman.

NOW slowly, let it sink in.

Here come the moral of the story

Quietly, we go like sheep to slaughter.

Does anybody remember the reason given for the establishment of the DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY during the Carter Administration?

Anybody?

Anything?

No?

Bottom line. We've spent several hundred billion dollars in support of an agency...the reason for which
not one person who reads this can remember!

Ready??

It was very simple...and at the time, everybody thought it very appropriate.

The Department of Energy was instituted on 8-04-1977.

To lessen our dependence on foreign oil.

Hey, pretty efficient, huh???

32 years later and a budget of $24.2 billion a year. 16,000 feds and roughly 100,000 contract employess and what a great job. Hmmm wonder how the public option will work. :laugh:

What was I thinking. :confused:

Ah, yes--good ole bureaucracy.

And now, not only health care but the banking system, automotive industry.

It sure makes some of us wonder who's at home.

And if this is just an outright misconception, then I'm sorry and the Dept of Energy has sovled our problem of being dependent on foreign oil.

[CountryBoy]

Tech Dangers, (Caveat Joke only)

I was in the pub yesterday when I suddenly realized I desperately needed to fart. The music was really, really loud, so I timed my farts with the beat.

After a couple of songs, I started to feel better. I finished my pint and noticed that everybody was staring at me.

Then I suddenly remembered that I was listening to my iPod.

[JOVARN]

Carter did put a solar hot water heater on the roof of the white house and in the early 70s the Gov was giving rebates for alternative energy design and usage. Then along came Reagan who took the program down, the plan was set in motion and stone; The rest is history and Saudi Arabia is laughing all the way to the bank. I am a conservative democrat, which should be close enough for this thread.

[JOVARN]

Loved the I pod joke

[coolhand]

Want to know why we're in the trouble we're in? Here's some of our brightest voters. :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJuNgBkloFE&feature=player_embedded

[nnuut]

That's amazing, but there are ignorant all over the world. The older folks can't read the NEWS PAPER, WATCH TV NEWS, or something to keep up on what's happening in this world? The younger folks are either results of our sparkling education system, or plainly don't give a crap about what's happening in the world, their country etc. I blame their parents first of all and our politicians for dumbing down our education system to get a better grade average for students. I won't go into the detail of that one:sick:!

[Show-me]

Brilliant and they seem to be becoming part of the majority.

[OBGibby]

To quote the Honorable Judge Smails: Well, the world needs ditch diggers, too.


These types of idiots make me feel like a million bucks!

[James48843]

Just wondered what you all thought of this:


GOP ex-candidate endorses Democrat in New York

Dede Scozzafava's decision not to back Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman indicates a widening gap in the GOP.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-gop-new-york2-2009nov02,0,1356909.story


“She’s devastated that these outside interests are trying to hijack her moderate wing of the party," said one New York Democrat who had spoken to Scozzafava.

“It’s not in the cards for me to be your representative, but I strongly believe Bill [Owens] is the only candidate who can build upon [former Rep.] John McHugh's lasting legacy in the U.S. Congress,” Scozzafava said.

“In Bill Owens, I see a sense of duty and integrity that will guide him beyond political partisanship. He will be an independent voice devoted to doing what is right for New York. Bill understands this district and its people, and when he represents us in Congress he will put our interests first.” Republican nominee Dede Scozzafava, endorsing Democrat Bill Owens for Congress.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/29013.html

[tsptalk]

That isn't too surprising. She was a liberal republican and I'm guessing she was nudged out by the GOP to make room for Hoffman, and is probably a little bitter. The question is, will Hoffman now run as a republican instead of the conservative party (or maybe it too late to change)?

[James48843]

That isn't too surprising. She was a liberal republican and I'm guessing she was nudged out by the GOP to make room for Hoffman, and is a little bitter. The question is, will Hoffman now run as a republican instead of conservative party (or is it too late)?

Too late. The election is tomorrow. He's not a republican, and She wasn't "nudged out by the GOP.". The GOP hand-picked her for the race. It was the anti-GOP forces (those who didn't agree with the GOP selection) that made her not welcome.

I have to wonder- will the "Conservative Party" of New York become the force that destroys the republican party in that state? Will the fractures spread elsewhere? I don't think the republicans will be able to survive as a major political force if they fragment and have no room for diverse voices.

[tsptalk]

Someone wanted her out. I can't imagine she's come this far to drop out. I believe conservative party Hoffman is the big favorite anyway.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/p...23_1101424.pdf (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_NY23_1101424.pdf)

[James48843]

You never know. A democrat hasn't held that seat since 1871. It will be interesting, to say the least, to see how it turns out in the end.

I bet a lot of absentee votes have already been cast. It could be interesting. If by some chance the dem ends up winning, what would that say?

[CountryBoy]

Brilliant and they seem to be becoming part of the majority.

Yep and some people just can't read or comprehend. ;)

[coolhand]

They're starting to figure out what many of us already knew long before the election results were final.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.a9c1d8758a5fc4e5ede14d5a3ec887a d.661&show_article=1

[tsptalk]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVh75ylAUXY&feature=related

[coolhand]

2010 can't come soon enough. Buy your pitchforks early. ;)

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703932904574511263515975366.html?m od=WSJ_hpp_sections_opinion

[CountryBoy]

Congress Funds Study on How To Avoid Constituents, Stay in Office

This Friday, the tax payer funded Congressional Management Foundation (CMF) is hosting a briefing for Members of Congress and their staff on their new study: Online Town Hall Meetings: Exploring Democracy in the 21st Century. The CMF study consisted of 21 townhall meetings where Members of Congress and CMF provided a moderator.

CMF does not say what qualifies as offensive, but if this summer is any indication that definition would include anything that the Congressman did not want to talk about. In other words, this report urges Congressmen not to actually interact with their constituents, but to avoid them altogether by holding safe townhalls they can completely control. (I guess this is what the dims want, so there won't be to many Conservatives there, we seem to be to numerous for some folks that don't want us to be able to voice our opinion as the US Constitution still allows)

Congress is actually using your tax dollars to pay social scientists to find ways they can avoid actually talking to their constituents while improving their chances of reelection.

http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/28/congress-funds-study-on-how-to-avoid-constituents-and-stay-in-office/

They don't want to have to answer the hard questions, just questions from their socialist friends. Ain't that the American way. :mad: We have a bunch of sissies in DC.

Why don't they just say "Go away kid, you bother me" WC Fields? Wiki boy will correct me if I wrong. :laugh:

CB

[Steadygain]

They don't want to have to answer the hard questions, just questions from their socialist friends. Ain't that the American way. :mad: We have a bunch of sissies in DC.

Why don't they just say "Go away kid, you bother me" WC Fields? Wiki boy will correct me if I wrong. :laugh:

CB

As a 'Registered Republican' -- I'm safe here as well.

CB - It's early in the week -- but it's going to be hard to find a better post than this one for 'Post of the Week'. :D:D

[CountryBoy]

As a 'Registered Republican' -- I'm safe here as well.

CB - It's early in the week -- but it's going to be hard to find a better post than this one for 'Post of the Week'. :D

Thanks Steady,

But I'm sure there'll be plenty posts more worthy than mine. It's just an honor to be considered for this award. :D

Yep, you're safe here, but then I don't go where I'm not welcome. ;)

Pssst, but ya may want to drop the registered republican moniker, cause they are just as bad as the Dims. Go with Conservative, then folks will know you have strong morals, principles and ethics and that you won't compromise them just to make nice nice to evil. To many RINO's out there that I wouldn't give a bucket of warm spit for. :laugh:

CB

[nnuut]

2010 can't come soon enough. Buy your pitchforks early. ;)

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703932904574511263515975366.html?m od=WSJ_hpp_sections_opinion
I have 2 Pitchforks if anybody needs one!!:) 7138

[coolhand]

YES WE CAN! :D

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/11/03/2009.elections/index.html

[James48843]

New Jersey just called for the republican too.

[nnuut]

Shades of things to come, give it 364 days and you'll see something.:cool: 7145

[James48843]

New York's 23rd is still too close to call, but the dem is ahead.

A dem hasn't won that district since 1852. the last time someone other than a republican has, was when a Whig won it in 1854.

Could be an all-nighter waiting to see who wins.


7148

[tsptalk]

I think they called it for Owens already.

[James48843]

I think they called it for Owens already.

Anyone who is calling it for Owens at this hour is waaayyyy to early. There are a ton of absentee votes which could affect the outcome.

Where did you see it called for Ownes?

[CountryBoy]

And if you really honestly think that after listening to a preacher for 20 years, that your not influenced, then you've never been to church or only for very short periods of time. If you stay for 20 years then you are a true believer and to say any different is just pure BS. :laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YN09bAFlwY&feature=player_embedded

This guy was bHo's mentor and molded his thinking.

[nnuut]

Yeah, we all know this but some just let it go as it were insignificant, NOT ME!! :suspicious:
I thought this thread was for conservatives only?:confused:

[CountryBoy]

Yeah, we all know this but some just let it go as it were insignificant, NOT ME!! :suspicious:
I thought this thread was for conservatives only?:confused:

Rules? Who's needs the steeeekin' rule. Some folks think rules don't apply to them. :confused: But yet the pointly don't invite one group, kinda like the little girl on her birthday party, don't invite the ugly kid. We'un's must be ugly and neanderthals, but not childish. :rolleyes: Though it does keep this thread from being inbred, but I'm one to follow the rules.

[coolhand]

Rules? Who's needs the steeeekin' rule. Some folks think rules don't apply to them. :confused: But yet the pointly don't invite one group, kinda like the little girl on her birthday party, don't invite the ugly kid. We'un's must be ugly and neanderthals, but not childish. :rolleyes: Though it does keep this thread from being inbred, but I'm one to follow the rules.

Folks pick various reasons to make their political choices. For many, it often means just one or two issues that are dear to them. Everything else is just noise. Can't see the forest for the trees.

My union is like that. As long as a given party gives them what they want, nothing else matters. :mad:

I disagree with those idiots a lot. :cool:

[Steadygain]

ya may want to drop the registered republican moniker, cause they are just as bad as the Dims. Go with Conservative, then folks will know you have strong morals, principles and ethics and that you won't compromise them

CB,
I did a lot of 'reflective thinking' last night and early this mornin...


I'd say this is something that all would agree with and this pretty much sums up the other Thread -- not listed as 'Conservative' but I'd say that's the bottomline of what they're hoping to convey.

Here I thought you had to be more 'Liberal or Moderate' to cut across the grain to preserve strong morals, principles, and ethics and short of trying to change things you would compromise....

Anyway -- very good message !!

[coolhand]

I do not watch FOX news or any other mainstream newscast. I'm not a fan of any of em' even if I tend to agree with some of the more prolific conservative commentators. I've never read any books by Ann Coulter, or any other conservative political figure. I don't listen to Rush Limbaugh.

I also don't pay attention to the other side of the political coin and their shrill message.

I make my own decisions.

But when I see ratings like this, I know where the masses really stand. If it wasn't for ACORN and the Neocons...:rolleyes:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/1109/Fox_wins_election_night_CNN_places_4th.html

[nnuut]

Rules? Who's needs the steeeekin' rule. Some folks think rules don't apply to them. :confused: But yet the pointly don't invite one group, kinda like the little girl on her birthday party, don't invite the ugly kid. We'un's must be ugly and neanderthals, but not childish. :rolleyes: Though it does keep this thread from being inbred, but I'm one to follow the rules.
I think sharing opinions is where it's at, that’s how people learn, but some like to BAN or suggest a Ban of any member that may disagree with their opinions. Let's get together and discuss the issues in a fair and nonbiased way, that's the way to settle disagreements. I may not agree with everything somebody believes but think they have the RIGHT to their opinions the same as I do. I just LOVE everybody!!:laugh:

[CapeChem]

I do not watch FOX news or any other mainstream newscast. I'm not a fan of any of em' even if I tend to agree with some of the more prolific conservative commentators. I've never read any books by Ann Coulter, or any other conservative political figure. I don't listen to Rush Limbaugh.

I also don't pay attention to the other side of the political coin and their shrill message.

I make my own decisions.

But when I see ratings like this, I know where the masses really stand. If it wasn't for ACORN and the Neocons...:rolleyes:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/1109/Fox_wins_election_night_CNN_places_4th.html

You must listen to information in some form in order to make your own decisions.....everyone is influenced by someone or something.

[Steadygain]

I think sharing opinions is where it's at, that’s how people learn, but some like to BAN or suggest a Ban of any member that may disagree with their opinions. Let's get together and discuss the issues in a fair and nonbiased way, that's the way to settle disagreements. I may not agree with everything somebody believes but think they have the RIGHT to their opinions the same as I do. I just LOVE everybody!!:laugh:

Me too !!! Got to admit -- this Tread is feeling better and better !!!


You must listen to information in some form in order to make your own decisions.....everyone is influenced by someone or something.

This sounds like another MB Bible verse -- one of those undeniable truths...

Very good !! I mean how could anyone argue this one ??:D:D

[coolhand]

You must listen to information in some form in order to make your own decisions.....everyone is influenced by someone or something.

You misunderstand. I've heard it all long before now. I don't need someone to keep pumping me with rhetoric. I don't believe one thing or another just because so and so says it's so. My beliefs are rooted in decades of experience. At some point in your life you realize where your core values are and it doesn't usually change after that.

So I can quickly read any article or listen to some speaker and know where I stand. Whether I agree or disagree is based on my personal core beliefs.

[Steadygain]

I've heard it all long before now. I don't need someone to keep pumping me with rhetoric. I don't believe one thing or another just because so and so says it's so. My beliefs are rooted in decades of experience. At some point in your life you realize where your core values are and it doesn't usually change after that.

So I can quickly read any article or listen to some speaker and know where I stand. Whether I agree or disagree is based on my personal core beliefs.

Here last night several Posts honestly stuck out as the winners !!


POST of the WEEK !!!

This is excellent !!

Only after years of maturity and learning :D;)

[coolhand]

Pelosi can smugly declare they won, but she's doing no favors for her party with her public declarations.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/29167.html

[CapeChem]

You misunderstand. I've heard it all long before now. I don't need someone to keep pumping me with rhetoric. I don't believe one thing or another just because so and so says it's so. My beliefs are rooted in decades of experience. At some point in your life you realize where your core values are and it doesn't usually change after that.

So I can quickly read any article or listen to some speaker and know where I stand. Whether I agree or disagree is based on my personal core beliefs.

Its just that when i hear someone say "I make my own decisions" I cringe a little... in order to have a core value we had to be convinced by someone or something else that that value is worth holding onto..... Then we start building our pearl of core values....and each time we are convinced that another ideology is worth holding onto we add another layer onto our pearl..... its probably all semantics... I respect your core values and your ability to decern truth.

[CountryBoy]

Well sorry for voicing my opinion, but I believe it was nnuutt that said, " I thought this thread was for conservatives only? :confused:

And I agreed with NNuutt but I also said that "Though it does keep this thread from being inbred, but I'm one to follow the rules."

Now I get taken to task by NNuutt with " I think sharing opinions is where it's at, that’s how people learn, but some like to BAN or suggest a Ban of any member that may disagree with their opinions. Let's get together and discuss the issues in a fair and nonbiased way, that's the way to settle disagreements. I may not agree with everything somebody believes but think they have the RIGHT to their opinions the same as I do. I just LOVE everybody!!"


Well I definately need a break, because I'm either reading thread titles wrong or not explaining myself in a clear enough manner to get my point across or maybe people like to have it both ways.

[coolhand]

Hey, you're going to love this one. It applies in more ways than just Wall Street. :D

http://trueslant.com/matttaibbi/

[Steadygain]

Well sorry for voicing my opinion.

Sometimes that's just not enough CB -- The hurt is too deep and the damage has already been done and lingers all over. Saying sorry may make you feel better and you may walk away with a clear conscious and not have a care or concern. But me I'll be wallowing in misery -- wondering how long can this prison of pain and helplessness continue - wondering how many days or weeks will it take before it finally fades away....

Guess...you can tell I'm in one of those crazy moods....

Hope all is well CB

[Steadygain]

My beliefs are rooted in decades of experience. At some point in your life you realize where your core values are and it doesn't usually change after that.

So I can quickly read any article or listen to some speaker and know where I stand. Whether I agree or disagree is based on my personal core beliefs.

This is one of the few messages that really stuck out -- and stays with me.

When Sarah Palin first came on the Scene -- and gave her initial presentation it was 'her core values' and those aspects that are genuinely deeply her rich character -- that wholly brought me to support her.

I wish like anything Sarah had stuck with that -- and not allowed the Political Pollution to interfere. That's where Politics is so destructive; it does not allow people to be (and remain) deeply genuine and does not allow them to BELIEVE that their core beliefs and values are enough.

Yet when 'abortion' came up -- They came out stronger than ever.

SO -- I would way rather Sarah and any other politician make a point of 'being real' and making their core beliefs and values the center of what they are offering -- of letting people know who they are -- than dealing with all the garbage the media wants to focus on.

My thought for the day ---

[CountryBoy]

Sometimes that's just not enough CB -- The hurt is too deep and the damage has already been done and lingers all over. Saying sorry may make you feel better and you may walk away with a clear conscious and not have a care or concern. But me I'll be wallowing in misery -- wondering how long can this prison of pain and helplessness continue - wondering how many days or weeks will it take before it finally fades away....

Guess...you can tell I'm in one of those crazy moods....

Hope all is well CB

:confused:

[Steadygain]

Well sorry for voicing my opinion

CB - I'm just a crazy rascal man

So when I saw you -- all man -- no pretense -- start out with this.....


I had immediate 'flashbacks' to my training years of understanding women.....

I'm sure I've put my foot in my mouth more than once or twice and when I did :o --- I with the deepest sincerity started off with a similar comment .....

thinkn' all of us are wired pretty much the same --- and she's say hey it's cool :( just don't let it happen again :mad:

but thought it would blow over in a few minutes ....

So when I saw you start off with 'Sorry' .....

.... decided to immediately throw myself in the role of a woman you are 'appologizing to'

OK -- Now if you read it -- it should sound a lot better

[CountryBoy]

CB
[B][COLOR=#4b0082]So when I saw you -- all man -- no pretense -- start out with this.....


I had immediate 'flashbacks' to my training years of understanding women.....

I'm sure I've put my foot in my mouth more than once or twice and when I did :o --- I with the deepest sincerity started off with a similar comment .....



So when I saw you start off with 'Sorry' .....

.... decided to immediately throw myself in the role of a woman you are 'appologizing to'

OK -- Now if you read it -- it should sound a lot better

Woman :laugh: Maybe it was my subconcious audience coming thru, from my years of marriage. ;) Freudian slip.

Have a good weekend. :D

CB

[Show-me]

Old video but the look on the two people behind her.....................priceless. lol The look on her face said to me, o'**** did I just say that or think it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUaY3LhJ-IQ

[CountryBoy]

Lawmakers Detail Obama’s Pitch

Earl Blumenauer of Oregon, who supports the health care bill, the president asked, “Does anybody think that the teabag, anti-government people are going to support them if they bring down health care? All it will do is confuse and dispirit” Democratic voters “and it will encourage the extremists.”

http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/07/lawmakers-detail-obamas-pitch/

And people (socialists/dims) wonder why conservatives don't like the direction this administration is taking the country. And he calls us anti-geovernment people. Confuse you... are ya'll that stupid? And I'm far from an extremist, the extremist was the muslim terroist that killed our soldiers at Fort Hood!

When did voicing your opinion in this country cause us to be anti-government, we are anti-socialism. Hillary said someting regarding freedom of speech also. Ya'll support this type of attacks, on Americans by a president, that doesn't dare like to be questioned. You people allow censorship? Obvioulsy some of you do, just by your silence, you're condoning it. Hopefully you're not next on the list.

[coolhand]

Lawmakers Detail Obama’s Pitch

Earl Blumenauer of Oregon, who supports the health care bill, the president asked, “Does anybody think that the teabag, anti-government people are going to support them if they bring down health care? All it will do is confuse and dispirit” Democratic voters “and it will encourage the extremists.”

http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/07/lawmakers-detail-obamas-pitch/

And people (socialists/dims) wonder why conservatives don't like the direction this administration is taking the country. And he calls us anti-geovernment people. Confuse you... are ya'll that stupid? And I'm far from an extremist, the extremist was the muslim terroist that killed our soldiers at Fort Hood!

When did voicing your opinion in this country cause us to be anti-government, we are anti-socialism. Hillary said someting regarding freedom of speech also. Ya'll support this type of attacks, on Americans by a president, that doesn't dare like to be questioned. You people allow censorship? Obvioulsy some of you do, just by your silence, you're condoning it. Hopefully you're not next on the list.

The groundswell is building. The Obamacare package is DOA at the Senate. :D

[OBGibby]

"One of the strongest talking points of those who want a government-run medical care system is that we simply cannot afford the high and rising costs of medical care under the current system. First of all, what we can afford has absolutely nothing to do with the cost of producing anything. We will either pay those costs or not get the benefits. Moreover, if we cannot afford the quantity and quality of medical care that we want now, the government has no miraculous way of enabling us to afford it in the future. If you think the government can lower medical costs by eliminating 'waste, fraud and abuse,' as some Washington politicians claim, the logical question is: Why haven't they done that already? Over the years, scandal after scandal has shown waste, fraud and abuse to be rampant in Medicare and Medicaid. Why would anyone imagine that a new government medical program will do what existing government medical programs have clearly failed to do? If we cannot afford to pay for doctors, hospitals and pharmaceutical drugs now, how can we afford to pay for doctors, hospitals and pharmaceutical drugs, in addition to a new federal bureaucracy to administer a government-run medical system?" --economist Thomas Sowell (http://patriotpost.us/opinion/thomas-sowell/2009/11/05/the-costs-of-medical-care-part-iii/)

[CountryBoy]

Politics for Dummies.

DEMOCRAT
You have two cows..
Your neighbor has none.
You feel guilty for being successful.
You push for higher taxes so the government can provide cows for everyone.

REPUBLICAN
You have two cows..
Your neighbor has none.
So?

SOCIALIST
You have two cows..
The government takes one and gives it to your neighbor.
You form a cooperative to tell him how to manage his cow.

COMMUNIST
You have two cows..
The government seizes both and provides you with milk.
You wait in line for hours to get it.
It is expensive and sour.

CAPITALISM, AMERICAN STYLE
You have two cows..
You sell one, buy a bull, and build a herd of cows.

BUREAUCRACY, AMERICAN STYLE
You have two cows..
Under the new farm program the government pays you to shoot one, milk the other, and then pours the milk down the drain.

AMERICAN CORPORATION
You have two cows..
You sell one, lease it back to yourself and do an IPO on the 2nd one.
You force the two cows to produce the milk of four cows.
You are surprised when one cow drops dead.
You spin an announcement to the analysts stating you have downsized and are reducing expenses.
Your stock goes up.

FRENCH CORPORATION
You have two cows..
You go on strike because you want three cows.
You go to lunch and drink wine.
Life is good.

JAPANESE CORPORATION
You have two cows..
You redesign them so they are one-tenth the size of an ordinary cow and produce twenty times the milk.
They learn to travel on unbelievably crowded trains.
Most are at the top of their class at cow school.

GERMAN CORPORATION
You have two cows..
You engineer them so they are all blond, drink lots of beer, give excellent quality milk,
and run a hundred miles an hour
Unfortunately they also demand 13 weeks of vacation per year.

ITALIAN CORPORATION
You have two cows but you don't know where they are.
You break for lunch.
Life is good..

RUSSIAN CORPORATION
You have two cows..
You have some vodka.
You count them and learn you have five cows.
You have some more vodka.
You count them again and learn you have 42 cows.
The Mafia shows up and takes over however many cows you really have.

TALIBAN CORPORATION
You have all the cows in Afghanistan , which are two.
You don't milk them because you cannot touch any creature's private parts.
You get a $40 million grant from the US government to find alternatives to milk production but use the money to buy weapons.

IRAQI CORPORATION
You have two cows..
They go into hiding.
They send radio tapes of their mooing.

POLISH CORPORATION
You have two bulls..
Employees are regularly maimed and killed attempting to milk them.

BELGIAN CORPORATION
You have one cow.
The cow is schizophrenic.
Sometimes the cow thinks he's French, other times he's Flemish..
The Flemish cow won't share with the French cow.
The French cow wants control of the Flemish cow's milk.
The cow asks permission to be cut in half.
The cow dies happy

FLORIDA CORPORATION
You have a black cow and a brown cow.
Everyone votes for the best looking one.
Some of the people who actually like the brown one best accidentally vote for the
black one.
Some people vote for both.
Some people vote for neither
Some people can't figure out how to vote at all.
Finally, a bunch of guys from out-of-state tell you which one you think is the best-looking cow.

CALIFORNIA CORPORATION
You have millions of cows.
They make real California cheese.
Only five speak English.
Most are illegal.

[alevin]

Ohhhh CB, that's a Post of the Year! Absolutely wonderful. Now I know everything I ever wanted to know but was afraid to ask. :laugh:

[Buster]

Now that's funny (true) but funny as heck!:D:D

[WorkFE]

That was so good I had to share it. Thanks CB

[coolhand]

Iranian assets seized?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091112/ap_on_re_us/us_mosque_forfeiture

[Birchtree]

Well that's Allah damn about time we start to wake up.

[Frixxxx]

Iranian assets seized?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091112/ap_on_re_us/us_mosque_forfeiture
Apparently, the Iranian gov't is using these "properties" as fronts for illegally contributing to the government of Iran. So their "non-profit" status is under question.
But the question will be asked about the suppression of the Muslim faith.:cool: - Cue BT

[Birchtree]

Unfortunately a lot of the stink is rising from those Mosques.

[Buster]

Iranian assets seized?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091112/ap_on_re_us/us_mosque_forfeiture
I think Birch said it best just now...bout damn time people pull their PCness heads out of their bung holes and start thinking Homeland security first!!

[coolhand]

There appears to be a concerted move to isolate Iran. We recently had a "secret" meeting between the US and Israel, Russia seems to be signaling they that they are ready to shift tactics by reshaping their ecomomy with our help while turning their backs on Iran, and now we see the Fed moving in and seizing these properties (and religious ones at that).

Iran has to be isolated and weakened if we want our chances of getting out of Iraq and Afghanistan to be realized.

[Buster]

There appears to be a concerted move to isolate Iran. We recently had a "secret" meeting between the US and Israel, Russia seems to be signaling they that they are ready to shift tactics by reshaping their ecomomy with our help while turning their backs on Iran, and now we see the Fed moving in and seizing these properties (and religious ones at that).

Iran has to be isolated and weakened if we want our chances of getting out of Iraq and Afghanistan to be realized.
I hope you're right..because we all know Russia is very wind direction prone...which ever way is favorable for them alone, is the way they'll go...

[coolhand]

7233

A DEA officer stops at a ranch in south Texas, and talks with an old rancher by the name of Sam Gaunt. “I need to inspect your ranch for illegally grown drugs."

Gaunt says, "Okay, but do not go in that field over there," as he points out the location.

The DEA officer verbally explodes saying, "Mister, I have the authority of the Federal Government with me." Reaching into his rear pants pocket, he removes his badge and proudly displays it to Gaunt. "See this badge? This badge means I am allowed to go wherever I wish.... On any land. No questions asked or answers given. Have I made myself clear? Do you understand? "

Gaunt nods politely, apologizes, and goes about his chores.

A short time later, the old rancher hears loud screams and sees the DEA officer running for his life chased close behind by the rancher's prize bull.

With every step the bull is gaining ground on the officer, and it seems likely that he'll get “Horned”
before he reaches safety. The officer is clearly terrified. Gaunt throws down his tools, runs to the fence and yells at the top of his lungs.....


“Your badge. Show him your BADGE!!!"

[coolhand]

DON'T BOTHER WATCHING THE NEXT OSCARS.
THE CHOSEN ONE HAS ALREADY WON IT FOR BEST ACTOR...


7234


Q: What's the real problem with Barack Obama jokes?

A: His followers don't think they're funny and no-one else thinks they're jokes!

[Birchtree]

Larry Sinclair wouldn't find it funny either. But I do.

[Steadygain]

WOW !! This thread is great !! :D:D


Thanks everyone -- very much enjoyed the break.

[coolhand]

Larry Sinclair wouldn't find it funny either. But I do.

Here's a great quote that you'll really like.

The worst dregs of society gather around the tyrant - they are people of weak character who trade servility for unearned wealth.

Éttiene de la Boétie

[coolhand]

How can that be? The AMA said everything will be great! :rolleyes:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aOd7mHLJIhJc

[CountryBoy]

Here's a great quote that you'll really like.

The worst dregs of society gather around the tyrant - they are people of weak character who trade servility for unearned wealth.

Éttiene de la Boétie

Great find CH,

You could also add, those simple of mind who think that all fault is of Bushes makings and started only 9 yeras ago. They are so churlish in their attacks on folks voicing their opinions as defined under the US Constitution. They do no wrong and have no fault nor responsiblility, again being that blissful must be nice, but I also believe bliss is ignorance also. :laugh:

[CountryBoy]

How can that be? The AMA said everything will be great! :rolleyes:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aOd7mHLJIhJc

Conservative propaganda from a conservative mouthpiece, everyone knows how slanted Bloomberg is. :confused: and this is Bushes fault and only started occuring in the last 9 years. They'll never admit to being responsible, it's not in their vocabulary and besides, only productive, ethical folks have the character to admit when they are wrong and take responsibility. :D It's not in a socialist vocab.

[CountryBoy]

Extremist watchlist

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t3/KnightOfTheOldeCode/extremistwatchlist.jpg


Well I guess I should've paid more attention, that day in class, when they taught us how to embed a photo.

[Buster]

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t3/KnightOfTheOldeCode/extremistwatchlist.jpg

Here ya go CB..:)

[coolhand]

Three more years of this. :mad:

7258

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/11/obama-emperor-akihito-japan.html

[alevin]

Oh boy, bowing itself wasn't the problem, it was the fact that he bowed LOWER than the other guy. In Japan, bowing lower implies lower status person. If he had bowed same angle as the other person-would have sent message they are equals. Really poor message here between the 2 countries. Why on earth didn't his state department coaches tell him this? Or does he have state department coaches?:confused: :sick:

[CountryBoy]

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t3/KnightOfTheOldeCode/extremistwatchlist.jpg

Here ya go CB..:)

Thanks Buster. :o New laptop and keyboard keeps locking up, got lucky here.

[Buster]

Three more years of this. :mad:

7258

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/11/obama-emperor-akihito-japan.html
Nice one..But this was snapped as President Obama was bowing...the other picture you didn't see, was when the Japanese EMPEROR AKIHITO Bowed..it may have even been lower than Obama's, who knows?..then again the old guy may not be able to bow much or he'd fall on his face.:D

Seriously, as much as we would hate to think that President Obama is bowing in submission to the EMPEROR of Japan or The King of Saudi Arabia...I would like to believe that the President's foreign protocol advisers have told him what is customary and polite for the country's traditions he's in, and as a US diplomat, to act and play accordingly out of respect...I see it as nothing more than politeness from the President.

[Warrenlm]

"the other picture you didn't see, was when the Japanese EMPEROR AKIHITO Bowed..it may have even been lower than Obama's, who knows?.. "

From the link of the LA Times:
(UPDATES: 12:22 p.m. A brief news video has been added below, showing the greeting in this photograph. Contrary to some claims, the video shows no reciprocal bow by the emperor, who traditionally bows to no one. And we've added a file photo from 2007 of Vice President Dick Cheney greeting the Japanese Emperor at the same residence in a different fashion.)

[Warrenlm]

Oh boy, bowing itself wasn't the problem, it was the fact that he bowed LOWER than the other guy. In Japan, bowing lower implies lower status person. If he had bowed same angle as the other person-would have sent message they are equals. Really poor message here between the 2 countries. Why on earth didn't his state department coaches tell him this? Or does he have state department coaches?:confused: :sick:

Update video on the LA Times story does not show any bowing by the emperor and indeed shows an old picture of Cheney greeting in the traditional way of the US. Obama is acting as he actually feels.

[alevin]

Comments from people more familiar with Japanese social protocol than I am.....


I lived in Japan for half a year when I was in my 20s. I learned a few things re etiquette and the place of the emperor in Japanese society. The emperor NEVER bows, unless the "unthinkable" has happened, which is why he bowed to MacArthur and Mac didn't bow back. That was a unique situation in Japanese history and the vanquished always bow to the conqueror. I am sure MacArthur knew that. However the US president is not in Japan to declare it conquered. As long as the emperor lives and as an institution continues (a decision Mac made), he doesn't bow as long as his nation is not in a position of being given up to a conqueror.


the proper respectful protocol would have been a slight bow and in fact when you learn about the Japanese culture it is completely acceptable and very respectful to shake hands if you are not Japanese.
You see, the Japanese do not expect a Westerner to bow, so bowing doesn't usually add any additional level of respect and may actually cause a few laughs if done improperly.

the funny thing here is he's screwing it up. The deep bow is juxtaposed with his one handed handshake. To show respect you have to use two hands to do the handshake. A one handed shake is a sign of superiority. If he was Japanese that bow would come off as extremely sarcastic.


Obama has not only made a very big fool of himself, he will be regarded as a bit "weird" by the Japanese, who do NOT expect foreigners to bow, even to their emperor. The reason is, we gaijin don't know the protocols as to who bows to whom, how low to go, and a host of other do's and don'ts that Obamao has just violated. Just for starters: you don't bow and shake hands at the same time. It must have been a very, very awkward moment for the Emperor and Empress.


He should've shook his hand FIRST...
then without physical contact,bowed..
the actions are westernalised(sic) to bow and shake their hands. you do one or the OTHER,not both at the same time..



in japanese culture bowing that deeply is a sign of embarrassement, as in you did something to bring disrespect to the person you are bowing to, which is typically a superior.


What's worse is him looking at the ground. When is comes to peer class, isn't said that you shouldn't break eye contact. Typically, the head tilts to the side in order to retain eye contact, similar to the motion the emperor is making.


The Japanese are a culture with deep reverence for proper behavior and respect for appropriate manners and social protocol. To violate these rules embarrasses both parties.


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/11/obama-emperor-akihito-japan/comments

[OBGibby]

Interesting analysis of a potential Hillary Clinton run in 2012...

Hillary in 2012? (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/11/11/hillary_in_2012_99101.html)

[Buster]

Hmm...Interesting..So it seems that the general opinion is that Obama should have at best nodded...Figures, he over does everything:rolleyes:

[Birchtree]

From my perspective I thought BHO was trying to make a subtle homosexual gesture without being overt with all his bowing.

[coolhand]

Interesting analysis of a potential Hillary Clinton run in 2012...

Hillary in 2012? (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/11/11/hillary_in_2012_99101.html)

I have a very hard time seeing the Democrats, any Democrat, win the next Presidential election. There's still plenty of time for musing, but I don't see the economy (with or without HCR) or foreign policy going well.

All the Repulicans need is another Ronald Regan.

[JOVARN]

I think Birch said it best just now...bout damn time people pull their PCness heads out of their bung holes and start thinking Homeland security first!!

Amen to that!!
Circle the wagons.

[JOVARN]

Oh boy, bowing itself wasn't the problem, it was the fact that he bowed LOWER than the other guy. In Japan, bowing lower implies lower status person. If he had bowed same angle as the other person-would have sent message they are equals. Really poor message here between the 2 countries. Why on earth didn't his state department coaches tell him this? Or does he have state department coaches?:confused: :sick:

Bush had Coaches , did you see him duck that shoe!! now that was good coaching

[coolhand]

Bush had Coaches , did you see him duck that shoe!! now that was good coaching

:laugh: I think BHO represents all those Liberals who want to apologize for all those perceived Bush injustices. (Not that Bush was perfect either)

[Warrenlm]

"From my perspective I thought BHO was trying to make a subtle homosexual gesture without being overt with all his bowing."
We can always rely on you Birchtree! LOL

[Show-me]

OMG, as a Mod I should say something here but I am laughing to hard. Corpsman!

Now cut that out.

[Buster]

"the other picture you didn't see, was when the Japanese EMPEROR AKIHITO Bowed..it may have even been lower than Obama's, who knows?.. "

From the link of the LA Times:
(UPDATES: 12:22 p.m. A brief news video has been added below, showing the greeting in this photograph. Contrary to some claims, the video shows no reciprocal bow by the emperor, who traditionally bows to no one. And we've added a file photo from 2007 of Vice President Dick Cheney greeting the Japanese Emperor at the same residence in a different fashion.)
Where is the Video and direct link to this article?..Thanks

[alevin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kyD_e0Y7FQ&feature=player_embedded

this is it, Buster. And Akihito did bow, slightly, as I see it.

[Warrenlm]

At what minute in the video did the Emperor "bow"? I see a combination of a head nod, as his wife did, and a very slight pull down of his torso by the one handed handshake? For whatever reason, I think our President does not want to continue the past practice of the office he's in. That is consistent with his views, and those of many of the populace.

[CountryBoy]

http://i35.tinypic.com/sc5l6t.jpg


Honoring our Veterans on Veterans Day, uummm ok. :sick:

[coolhand]

Oh boy, things are going to get very interesting down the road.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/15/michele-bachmann-president-sarah-palin

[Show-me]

Got this little nugget in a email.

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY.

[nnuut]

7265:nuts:

[Show-me]

Kind of freaky wasn't it?

[nnuut]

Surely, a great editing job!! I think he should be more careful of what he says. :cool:

[Show-me]

It's the matrix, it will consume you.

[grandma]

Got this little nugget in a email.

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY.

When the various speeches are put together like this, it helps to show the continuity of his thoughts, beliefs, and agenda - where before the news anchors could `explain' away the phrases, sentences.
And noticing the bowing again: when he bowed in Japan, it was a doggone straight-legged bow;
but he very nearly (caught himself just in time, didn't he!) went to his knees to the Arabian fellow.
And then there is this: he states "America is no longer a Christian nation"
...Well, by my reckoning, to no longer be something, you had to have been it to begin with - that sorta gives the fly to all the letters-to-the-editors who declare we have Never been Christian.
President Obama says we have, so there !!!
(a fine piece of work, thanx for sharing, Show-me):)

[CountryBoy]

Will Americans be working for Chinese wages?

http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2009/11/17/will-americans-be-working-for-chinese-wages/#continued

Thoughtful opinion piece on spreading the wealth and interesting comments from other readers, who seem to think we are headed in that direction.


" A good example of where wages are going can be gleaned from this weeks Barron's Weekly (subscription required) where they recommended FedEx Corp (FDX) as good now and great later. They mention FedEx trimming its cost structure by $3 billion dollars annually, with half the savings being permanent based on a reduction in base salaries, merit pay, and 401K contributions. FDX is only one example of what is going on throughout the country."

There would be riots in the streets if they simply cut everyone's wages in half by edict. However, by their actions they can do exactly that. That is what is happening to make us "more competitive" by driving down our ability to purchase things on the world market and making our goods and services cheaper they improve our balance of trade. Furthermore the eventual inflation caused by our deficit spending and increase in currency supply is something DC folk hope will make the burden of our trillions in debt -- a kinder, gentler burden."

[nnuut]

Definition:

Conservative
Any shade of political opinion from moderately right-of-center to firmly right-of-center. Of the two major parties in the United States, the Republican Party is generally considered to be the more conservative. “Political” conservatives in the United States usually support free-market economic principles and low taxes, and distrust federal, as opposed to state and local, government power. “Cultural” conservatives may be opposed to abortion or to the excesses of popular media.:D

[coolhand]

Anyone see a trend? :rolleyes:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

[coolhand]

Great read if you're a conservative. Too bad liberals don't "get it".

ttp://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/29646.html

[Birchtree]

I watched Sarah on Fox last night with Hannity - she is definitely great. Essentially called Barry a radical - I think that is accurate. Watch him destroy this country.

[Buster]

A $50 Lesson

I recently asked my friends' little girl what she wanted to be when she grows up. She said she wanted to be President some day. Both of her parents, liberal Democrats, were standing there, so I asked her, 'If you were President what would be the first thing you would do? '

She replied, 'I'd give food and houses to all the homeless people.'

Her parents beamed with pride.

'Wow...what a worthy goal.' I told her, 'But you don't have to wait until you're President to do that. You can come over to my house and mow the lawn, pull weeds, and rake my yard, and I'll pay you $50. Then I'll take you over to the grocery store where the homeless guy hangs out, and you can give him the $50 to use toward food and a new house. '


She thought that over for a few seconds, then she looked me straight in the eye and asked, ' Why doesn't the homeless guy come over and do the work, and you can just pay him the $50? '


I said, 'Welcome to the Republican Party.'

[CountryBoy]

Good one Buster. :laugh:

Here's one more before I hit the road.

Are you a Democrat, Republican or a Redneck?

Here is a little test that will help you decide.

You're walking down a deserted street with your wife and two small children.

Suddenly, an Islamic Terrorist with a huge knife comes around the corner, locks eyes with you, screams obscenities, praises Allah, raises the knife, and charges at you.

You are carrying a Kimber 1911 45 cal. ACP, and you are an expert shot. You have mere seconds before he reaches you and your family..

What do you do?

.................................................. ..........
THINK CAREFULLY AND
THEN SCROLL DOWN:
Democrat's Answer :

Well, that's not enough information to answer the question! Does the man look poor or oppressed?

Have I ever done anything to him that would inspire him to attack?

Could we run away?

What does my wife think?

What about the kids?

Could I possibly swing the gun like a club and knock the knife out of his hand?
What does the law say about this situation?

Does the pistol have appropriate safety built into it?

Why am I carrying a loaded gun anyway, and what kind of message does this send to society and to my children?

Is it possible he'd be happy with just killing me?

Does he definitely want to kill me, or would he be content just to wound me?

If I were to grab his knees and hold on, could my family get away while he was stabbing me?

Should I call 9-1-1?

Why is this street so deserted?

We need to raise taxes, have paint and weed day and make this happier, healthier street that would discourage such behavior.

This is all so confusing!

I need to debate this with some friends for few days and try to come to a consensus.

.................................................. ..................


Republican's Answer:
BANG!

................................................. ............
Redneck's Answer:

BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG !
Click..... (Sounds of reloading)

BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG!
Click

Daughter: 'Nice grouping, Daddy! Were those the Winchester Silver Tips or Hollow Points?'

Son: 'Can I shoot the next one?'

Wife: 'You ain't taking that to the Taxidermist.

[Buster]

Excellent CB..


One more::D



Gubmint and How Gubmint Works

Once upon a time the government had a vast scrap yard in the middle of a desert. Congress said, "Someone may steal from it at night." So they created a night watchman position and hired a person for the job.

Then Congress said, "How does the watchman do his job without instruction?" So they created a planning department and hired two people, one person to write the instructions, and one person to do time studies.

Then Congress said, "How will we know the night watchman is doing the tasks correctly?" So they created a Quality Control department and hired two people.. One to do the studies and one to write the reports.

Then Congress said, "How are these people going to get paid?" So They created the following positions, a time keeper, and a payroll officer, Then hired two people.

Then Congress said, "Who will be accountable for all of these people?" So they created an administrative section and hired three people, an Administrative Officer, Assistant Administrative Officer, and a Legal Secretary.

Then Congress said, "We have had this command in operation for one Year and we are $18,000 over budget, we must cutback overall cost."

So they laid off the night watchman.

NOW slowly, let it sink in.

Quietly, we go like sheep to slaughter.

Does anybody remember the reason given for the establishment of the DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY.... during the Carter Administration?

Anybody?

Anything?

No?

Didn't think so!

Bottom line. We've spent several hundred billion dollars in support of an agency...the reason for which not one person who reads this can remember!

Ready??


It was very simple...and at the time, everybody thought it very appropriate.

The Department of Energy was instituted on 8-04-1977.
TO LESSEN OUR DEPENDENCE ON FOREIGN OIL.

Hey, pretty efficient, huh???

AND NOW IT'S 2009 -- 32 YEARS LATER -- AND THE BUDGET FOR THIS "NECESSARY" DEPARTMENT IS AT $24.2 BILLION A YEAR. THEY HAVE 16,000 FEDERAL EMPLOYEES AND APPROXIMATELY 100,000 CONTRACT EMPLOYEES; AND LOOK AT THE JOB THEY HAVE DONE! THIS IS WHERE YOU SLAP YOUR FOREHEAD AND SAY, "WHAT WAS I THINKING?"

Ah, yes -- good ole bureaucracy.

AND, NOW, WE ARE GOING TO TURN THE BANKING SYSTEM, HEALTH CARE, AND THE AUTO INDUSTRY OVER TO THE SAME GOVERNMENT?


HELLOOO!

[nnuut]

I think I'll tell all of my conseravtive REDNECK Friends about this Guy, he is very RUDE!!!:nuts:
http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/showpost.php?p=240653&postcount=137

[Buster]

I think I'll tell all of my conseravtive REDNECK Friends about this Guy, he is very RUDE!!!:nuts:
http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/showpost.php?p=240653&postcount=137
Rude wasn't the word I was thinking of...Oh wait!..Being Sub-moronic and low IQ, I can't think...need his address? I'm sure most would like to know it, since they watch FOX, they are considered sub-moronic..:D:laugh:

PS: note the hyphen

[Birchtree]

At least we don't get our spin from NPR.

[nnuut]

I watch FOX and am proud of it!!! 7288
There's only one thing I have to say, and that is:
THAT'S ONCE!:mad: 7289

[Show-me]

Hyphen noted.

[tsptalk]

The Palin / Beck, Beck / Palin ticket may be a joke, but it has to scare the crap out of the left.

Looking at the Amazon.com top selling 11 books as of today, 5 of them are written by conservatives, with 3 written by Beck and Palin, including #1 and #2... http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/books/53/ref=pd_ts_b_nav (http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/books/53/ref=pd_ts_b_nav)

Either the conservatives are the only ones reading books, or the liberals should start getting nervous. :eek:

[CountryBoy]

Gubmint and How Gubmint Works

Once upon a time the government had a vast scrap yard in the middle of a desert. Congress said, "Someone may steal from it at night." So they created a night watchman position and hired a person for the job.

Then Congress said, "How does the watchman do his job without instruction?" So they created a planning department and hired two people, one person to write the instructions, and one person to do time studies.

Then Congress said, "How will we know the night watchman is doing the tasks correctly?" So they created a Quality Control department and hired two people.. One to do the studies and one to write the reports.

Then Congress said, "How are these people going to get paid?" So They created the following positions, a time keeper, and a payroll officer, Then hired two people.

Then Congress said, "Who will be accountable for all of these people?" So they created an administrative section and hired three people, an Administrative Officer, Assistant Administrative Officer, and a Legal Secretary.

Then Congress said, "We have had this command in operation for one Year and we are $18,000 over budget, we must cutback overall cost."

So they laid off the night watchman.

NOW slowly, let it sink in.

Quietly, we go like sheep to slaughter.

Does anybody remember the reason given for the establishment of the DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY.... during the Carter Administration?

Anybody?

Anything?

No?

Didn't think so!

Bottom line. We've spent several hundred billion dollars in support of an agency...the reason for which not one person who reads this can remember!

Ready??


It was very simple...and at the time, everybody thought it very appropriate.

The Department of Energy was instituted on 8-04-1977.
TO LESSEN OUR DEPENDENCE ON FOREIGN OIL.

Hey, pretty efficient, huh???

AND NOW IT'S 2009 -- 32 YEARS LATER -- AND THE BUDGET FOR THIS "NECESSARY" DEPARTMENT IS AT $24.2 BILLION A YEAR. THEY HAVE 16,000 FEDERAL EMPLOYEES AND APPROXIMATELY 100,000 CONTRACT EMPLOYEES; AND LOOK AT THE JOB THEY HAVE DONE! THIS IS WHERE YOU SLAP YOUR FOREHEAD AND SAY, "WHAT WAS I THINKING?"

Ah, yes -- good ole bureaucracy.

AND, NOW, WE ARE GOING TO TURN THE BANKING SYSTEM, HEALTH CARE, AND THE AUTO INDUSTRY OVER TO THE SAME GOVERNMENT?


HELLOOO! [/QUOTE]

That's a keeper that'll go in my jokes folder and passed around the office. :laugh: Thanks Buster

[Birchtree]

My favorite ticket would be Palin/Rice. Put a credible black in power that has some experience on the global scene - enough of this bowing.

[CountryBoy]

Rude wasn't the word I was thinking of...Oh wait!..Being Sub-moronic and low IQ, I can't think...need his address? I'm sure most would like to know it, since they watch FOX, they are considered sub-moronic..:D:laugh:

PS: note the hyphen

I was going to say something, but I've heard his Forrest Gump comments several times already.... and my grammer will probably be wrong, cause I luv fonics. But at least Forrest played true American, not like those useful idiots like sean penn or cindy sheehan :laugh:

Don't want to rile the Grammar Queen.

[CountryBoy]

The Palin / Beck, Beck / Palin ticket may be a joke, but it has to scare the crap out of the left.

Looking at the Amazon.com top selling 11 books as of today, 5 of them are written by conservatives, with 3 written by Beck and Palin, including #1 and #2... http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/books/53/ref=pd_ts_b_nav (http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/books/53/ref=pd_ts_b_nav)

Either the conservatives are the only ones reading books, or the liberals should start getting nervous. :eek:

Maybe they can't read and need a book with pictures. :nuts:

[nnuut]

I'm watching Glen Beck right now, yes I believe what he says!! We are in deep chem chi Folks. I'm a very practical, no BS Guy, something has got to be done to stop this crap or we are Toast. COMMON SENSE, is where it's at and there seems to be a lack of that attribute on the Liberal/Progressive side? What happened, were they abused as children or something that makes them think that the Government is responsible for them and must take care of them? Right now my 25 year old daughter needs an operation and has NO Health Insurance, doesn't qualify for Medicaid. Oh HELL what to do, what to do-----Mom and Dad will pay for it, that's what Family is for. I'm about to lose it with the Liberal CRAP, I have never in my life seen anything like this. move to Venezuela you CREEPS!
Oh, I'm just kidding because I'm in a "group of people.....the clinically insane and xenophobic. The average IQ of most Fox News viewers is probably sub-moronic. The New York Post is written on a 5th grade reading level......for good reason." Come down here and say that to my face sweetie!!:nuts:

[coolhand]

Enjoy brothers and sisters...;)

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/youscareme.asp

[nnuut]

I have only one word to say:
EXACTLY!!!!! 7292

[wv-girl]

I'm watching Glen Beck right now, yes I believe what he says!! We are in deep chem chi Folks. I'm a very practical, no BS Guy, something has got to be done to stop this crap or we are Toast. COMMON SENSE, is where it's at and there seems to be a lack of that attribute on the Liberal/Progressive side? What happened, were they abused as children or something that makes them think that the Government is responsible for them and must take care of them? Right now my 25 year old daughter needs an operation and has NO Health Insurance, doesn't qualify for Medicaid. Oh HELL what to do, what to do-----Mom and Dad will pay for it, that's what Family is for. I'm about to lose it with the Liberal CRAP, I have never in my life seen anything like this. move to Venezuela you CREEPS!
Oh, I'm just kidding because I'm in a "group of people.....the clinically insane and xenophobic. The average IQ of most Fox News viewers is probably sub-moronic. The New York Post is written on a 5th grade reading level......for good reason." Come down here and say that to my face sweetie!!:nuts:


Surely, Mr. Rude couldn't possibly be referring to any member of the TSPTALK msg board. We are ALL ABOVE average. Or else we wouldn't be here.
I have chosen to ignore him. He just doesn't strike me as a personable kinda guy. (Whines too much-remember the 'ignore' button).
I like Glenn too. He makes me laugh with his presentations, but gets his point across. His isn't the only station I frequent. I like to get news from all different sources while trying to figure what is really going on.
Chin up NUTT --btw, I noticed you put your papers in. NOW I am jealous.
Not only do you cook--but you get to retire before me.
:D

[mick504]

I try to watch Glenn B. most days...I'm retired and have the time...if not doing something else. He is funny and overstates his points...sadly I think he's right...and it's scary as to what's really going on. It seems hardly anyone else will talk about it....so someone needs to. It's all the behind the scenes stuff that is being orchestrated by the current administration...while we're watching football games etc. Before it's over, the changes will have occurred and we will say....how did that happen. King of like Rip van winkle...we were sleeping thru it all...and when we awoke....it was all changed. That's the change BHO was talking about...and he wasn't kidding. That's all folks!

[CountryBoy]

Surely, Mr. Rude couldn't possibly be referring to any member of the TSPTALK msg board. We are ALL ABOVE average. Or else we wouldn't be here.
I have chosen to ignore him. He just doesn't strike me as a personable kinda guy. (Whines too much-remember the 'ignore' button).
I like Glenn too. He makes me laugh with his presentations, but gets his point across. His isn't the only station I frequent. I like to get news from all different sources while trying to figure what is really going on.
Chin up NUTT --btw, I noticed you put your papers in. NOW I am jealous.
Not only do you cook--but you get to retire before me.
:D

You're right wv-girl and so is Frixxxx. I'll use the ignore button, on mr. personality, if'n I can find it. ;) I've liked Glenn since his days in Tampa. Before 9/11 he was mucher funnier and his live shows are great.

Short day fro me as our daughter is in for our Thanksgiving Weekend, she works next, she got in yesterday,which me me onrier than normal.

Gotta run, still a short work day.

[CountryBoy]

Enjoy brothers and sisters...;)

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/youscareme.asp

Even Tom Brokow expressed serious concerns about bHo, becase we don't know anything about him. The demonization is a play right out of that radical Alinsky's book, that barry loves.

[CountryBoy]

Under the radar: Rising demand for Mexico-built auto engines is another recovery sign

Demand for Mexico-built vehicle engines is rising, helping to pull Mexico's economy out of it's recession, Bloomberg News reported.

The significance for investors? The increased demand for engines made south-of-the-border is being driven by a rebound in U.S. auto sales. Again, the increased sales trend is nothing to write home about -- U.S. automaker new vehicle sales rose in October and are expected to rise in November, as well, according to data compiled by Edmunds.com, Dow Jones reported, but the important dimension is the trend's direction.

http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2009/11/19/under-the-radar-rising-demand-for-mexico-built-auto-engines-is/#continued

Unfortunately we need these jobs here. I guess, this is what many articles are calling the jobs that are lost and will never return to this country. :(

[nnuut]

Thanks for the support folks, it's good to know that we still have some logical people in the USA!! THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE!! :cool:
I apologize for the rant, I lost control, and hopefully it won't happen again.:D
OH! 40 days until I retire!! That's including weekends and Holidays!!!!
BRING IT ON!!:laugh::laugh:

[nnuut]

Surely, Mr. Rude couldn't possibly be referring to any member of the TSPTALK msg board. We are ALL ABOVE average. Or else we wouldn't be here.
I have chosen to ignore him. He just doesn't strike me as a personable kinda guy. (Whines too much-remember the 'ignore' button).
I like Glenn too. He makes me laugh with his presentations, but gets his point across. His isn't the only station I frequent. I like to get news from all different sources while trying to figure what is really going on.
Chin up NUTT --btw, I noticed you put your papers in. NOW I am jealous.
Not only do you cook--but you get to retire before me.
:D
Hang in there WVG you couldn't be that far behind be, Time passes quickly. Yes I like to cook, but eating BBQ is my hobby. Going to build a Pig Cooker for the backyard, already have the top and grill built, 4 foot by 5 foot. :D I'm going to try something new, it will be electric, with a smoke box, no charcoal or Gas, should be fun.:cool:

[Buster]

Thanks for the support folks, it's good to know that we still have some logical people in the USA!! THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE!!
I apologize for the rant, I lost control, and hopefully it won't happen again.
OH! 40 days until I retire!! That's including weekends and Holidays!!!!
BRING IT ON!!
No apologies necessary..I think you spoke for many...

About Mexican engines:

Back in '95 I bought a new Nissan hardbody P/U...nice vehicle basically, but at 7500 miles on the clock, It had to have it's engine replaced..the original one I was told was made in Mexico..They replaced it with a new one made in Japan...Not saying anything about Japan ..but just sayin:suspicious:

[CountryBoy]

No apologies necessary..I think you spoke for many...



What Buster said nnuut. :D

[Show-me]

The Pope and Nancy Pelosi are on stage in front of a huge crowd.

The Pope leans towards Mrs. Pelosi and said, "Do you know that

with one little wave of my hand I can make every person in this

crowd go wild with joy? This joy will not be a momentary display,

like that of your followers, but go deep into their hearts and for

the rest of their lives whenever they speak of this day they will

rejoice!"

Pelosi replied, "I seriously doubt that; with one little wave of

your hand? Show me."........


So the Pope slapped her.

>
>
>



Later .........


Joke.

[CountryBoy]

I Fought the Law. . . And I Won

Ron Paul's donation checks and ACLU sure came in handy in this situation. And the audio of the TSA thug's harassment and cussing come thru loud and clear. Is this our future, when it comes to the new law enforcement? They obviously need to be better trained. Scary what this rent a cops think they can do now. And Rent a cops or not, these so called law enforcement officials need to know the law instead of using Bullying tactics, which seem to be becoming more prevalent these days.

http://www.campaignforliberty.com/article.php?view=371

As I always do when transporting money from Campaign for Liberty events, I place the funds in a thin metal cash box similar to that found at a raffle or church bazaar, with the box then placed in my carry-on bag. After working my way through the numerous levels of checkpoints, I finally came to the baggage screening. I handed my ticket and my license to the initial TSA agent and proceeded to the screening. After I had walked through the metal detector and handed my ticket to the attendant for further verification, I waited for my items to come out of the machine. The screening attendant motioned for assistance and an additional TSA attendant soon came over.

This individual ordered me off to the side and proceeded to search through my bag. As he looked through my belongings, he eventually took out the moneybox and informed me he needed to look through it. I asked him if I was being detained or if I was free to go. Upon his second demand to search it, I asked if the box was being detained. Never did he provide a direct answer to my question, and likewise never did I offer my consent to a search.


http://www.campaignforliberty.com/article.php?view=371

On March 29, 2009, Steven Bierfeldt was detained in a small room at Lambert-St. Louis International Airport and interrogated by Transportation Security Administration (TSA) officials for nearly half an hour after he passed a metal box containing cash through a security checkpoint X-ray machine. Bierfeldt was carrying the cash in connection with his duties as the Director of Development for the Campaign for Liberty, a political organization that grew out of Congressman Ron Paul's presidential campaign.

On June 18, 2009, the ACLU filed a complaint on behalf of Bierfeldt, charging that TSA is subjecting innocent Americans to unreasonable searches and detentions that violate the Constitution.

Great Stuff putting the Gestapo on notice. :D And this happened in America. :mad: Who are these fricking, arrogant, ignorant thugs anyway. Finally some plain-clothes official had some common sense to stop it, before they hauled him off to jail.

[coolhand]

A little humor with a good moral.

The Pastor's Ass

The pastor entered his donkey in a race and
it won.

The pastor was so pleased with the donkey
that he entered it in the Race
again, and it won again.

The local paper read:

PASTOR'S ASS OUT FRONT


The Bishop was so upset with this kind of
publicity that he ordered the
pastor not to enter the donkey in another race.

The next day, the local paper headline
read:

BISHOP SCRATCHES PASTOR'S ASS

This was too much for the bishop, so he
ordered the pastor to get rid
of the donkey.

The pastor decided to give it to a nun in a
nearby convent.

The local paper, hearing of the news, posted
the following headline the next day:

NUN HAS BEST ASS IN TOWN

The bishop fainted.

He informed the nun that she would have to
get rid of the donkey, so she
sold it to a farmer for $10.

The next day the paper read:

NUN SELLS ASS FOR $10

This was too much for the bishop, so he
ordered the nun to buy back the
donkey and lead it to the plains where it could run wild.

The next day the headlines read:

NUN ANNOUNCES HER ASS IS WILD AND FREE

The bishop was buried the next day.

The moral of the story is .. . . being
concerned about public opinion can
bring you much grief and misery; even shorten your
life..

So be yourself and enjoy life.

Stop worrying about everyone else's ass and
you'll be a lot happier and live longer!

Have a nice day!
Sharing is caring!

[wv-girl]

Joke.
Thanks for making me laugh. I needed that!

p.s. Send it to Glenn, I'm sure he would love it.:D

[Birchtree]

I noticed from the progressive thread they believe in education. Let me tell you a story that some of you may already be familiar with. When my daughter was in the 6th grade she was bussed all the way across town to provide her sacrifice to help maintain racial parity in a school that Tom Petty attended. I had no choice in the matter unless I wanted to change my address - our local school was only three miles down the road. She had a lovely black lady that was her 6th grade science teacher. They had a science book that had a total of 26 chapters - mostly basic stuff like geology, clouds, etc. To make this a short story they only completed 6 chapters during the whole school year. The wife and I decided to purchase the science book and encouraged our daughter to read it over the summer - she had already turned lazy by then. I actually had to hire a lawyer to get her out of the school so she could make progress - but not the progressive way. I wanted her to earn her education with hard work. We were denied on two previous occasions due to this one anglosaxon girl would disturb racial parity. When we brought the lawsuit the tune changed. I read later in the paper there were 1500 families that did the same thing. Anyway, when she was in the 10th grade she took a standard test on reading and comprehension skills and really did terribly. While I was looking over her test weaknesses I noticed something that rang a bell - all the questions were science related. Every question was following the contents of her 6th grade science book - it bit her right on her tiny butt. It was then she decided to settle down and begin to apply herself and after I told her she wouldn't see daylight until her grades improved and I wanted to see the homework assignments. She eventually received a five year chemical engineering degree. You really need to have a father in the home - it takes two parents.

[coolhand]

I love this guy. :nuts:

http://atlah.org/atlahworldwide/?p=1224

[Birchtree]

I believe McDuk was chastised by the Administrator for posting Pastor Manning. But I think he is right on the mark not the Administrator but Paster Manning.

[Buster]

I love this guy. :nuts:

http://atlah.org/atlahworldwide/?p=1224


LMAO..he said "Mike Huckleberry":D:D:D

[coolhand]

I believe McDuk was chastised by the Administrator for posting Pastor Manning. But I think he is right on the mark not the Administrator but Paster Manning.

Yeah, he can be inflammatory, but I love the entertainment value. :D

[Viva La Migra]

A $50 Lesson

I recently asked my friends' little girl what she wanted to be when she grows up. She said she wanted to be President some day. Both of her parents, liberal Democrats, were standing there, so I asked her, 'If you were President what would be the first thing you would do? '

She replied, 'I'd give food and houses to all the homeless people.'

Her parents beamed with pride.

'Wow...what a worthy goal.' I told her, 'But you don't have to wait until you're President to do that. You can come over to my house and mow the lawn, pull weeds, and rake my yard, and I'll pay you $50. Then I'll take you over to the grocery store where the homeless guy hangs out, and you can give him the $50 to use toward food and a new house. '


She thought that over for a few seconds, then she looked me straight in the eye and asked, ' Why doesn't the homeless guy come over and do the work, and you can just pay him the $50? '


I said, 'Welcome to the Republican Party.'



Great story. How did the parents react?

[Buster]

Great story. How did the parents react?
LOL..I chopped off that part..."they haven't spoken to him since":D:D

[Birchtree]

Education is important but here is the liberal approach to helping the at risk minoirity achieve some progress. The University of Florida has a relationship on an educational level with one of the local high schools. They are using their educational major students in a unique program to help these high school students. Each UofF student is mentoring a high school student and actually goes home with them to encourage them to do their homework - isn't that just a great plan? Whatever happened to midnight basketball?

[tsptalk]

I believe McDuk was chastised by the Administrator for posting Pastor Manning. But I think he is right on the mark not the Administrator but Paster Manning.
I'm not even sure who paster manning is, so it couldn't have been that. I like McDuck. He just has a problem with posting political material in areas of the board where it shouldn't be, even after being asked nicely. Anyone who makes me or the mods work hard, deserves chastising. ;)

[Buster]

I'm not even sure who paster manning is
He is the alter ego of Rev. Write:D

[tsptalk]

You really need to have a father in the home - it takes two parents.
I couldn't agree more. I can tell just by the way they act, which of my son's friends don't have the "luxury" of a two parent household. It is sad because it is not the kid's fault, and I'm sure most of the separated parents do the best they can, but it is just obvious that it works better when the family stays together. It can be tough and there are certainly situations where it can not work, but a little self sacrifice for 18 years should be the minimum price you pay for procreating.

[Viva La Migra]

I couldn't agree more. I can tell just by the way they act, which of my son's friends don't have the "luxury" of a two parent household. It is sad because it is not the kid's fault, and I'm sure most of the separated parents do the best they can, but it is just obvious that it works better when the family stays together. It can be tough and there are certainly situations where it can not work, but a little self sacrifice for 18 years should be the minimum price you pay for procreating.

It certainly depends on the situation. When a couple gets to the point of constant fighting it might be best to separate. The important thing is for both parents to remain active in their children's lives even if they aren't living together. Too many men abandon their children after divorce.

[ezmoney]

Thomas Jefferson "Educate and inform the whole mass of the people. They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty".

[Birchtree]

You don't qualify for welfare if you have a man in the house. Another progressive liberal policy to encourage illegitamacy and it's the children that pay the price. And they cause the rest of us to pay a price. You can even take your illegitmate child to high school and they provide free daycare. Some folks have no shame - only greed for government subsidies. You know, the doom of HIV is a lifestyle disease and so isn't welfare in my opinion.

[Frixxxx]

When a couple gets to the point of constant fighting it might be best to /edit (learn Compromise) /edit separate.
IMHO -> Too many people enter into the physical (all about me) and never consider the future.

Birth - educated (by two parents) - school (intellectual learning) - Spiritual (religion/philisophic choice) - Career - Marriage - Parenting - GrandParenting - Death

Wow that was easy!

Most people nowadays say, "I shouldn't have to give up anything for my happiness." a.k.a selfishness

[tsptalk]

The important thing is for both parents to remain active in their children's lives even if they aren't living together.
Yes, and they should not compete with each other. I've seen divorced parents trying to outdo each other in the gifts department. The gift that says, "Please like me more". :rolleyes:

[Show-me]

November 20, 2009

Obama Job Approval Down to 49%

President becomes fourth fastest to slip below the majority approval level

by Jeffrey M. Jones

PRINCETON, NJ -- The latest Gallup Daily tracking results show 49% of Americans approving of the job Barack Obama is doing as president, putting him below the majority approval level for the first time in his presidency.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/122627/Obama-Job-Approval-Down-49.aspx

I'm sure this is tainted information produced by a right wing conspiracy group.

[Viva La Migra]

Yes, and they should not compete with each other. I've seen divorced parents trying to outdo each other in the gifts department. The gift that says, "Please like me more". :rolleyes:
Absolutely. My parents divorced when I was in my mid teens. I don't recall them doing that. When it came to us, they seemed to be on the same sheet of music. They didn't try to one up each other.

[Frixxxx]

Absolutely. My parents divorced when I was in my mid teens. I don't recall them doing that. When it came to us, they seemed to be on the same sheet of music. They didn't try to one up each other.
My parents divorced when I was 2. My father was a drug addict, go figure....and I know I'll catch guff for this one but, Thank you 1960's!

Now, my dad (some call him stepdad), may not have been a sit on my lap or let's go play some ball kinda guy, but he taught me enough of the basics that helped me get to where I am today.

I have served AD military, and I am serving in the Reserves. I have a college education, and working on my Master's. I never had kids of my own (personal choice), but married a woman with two and I am a PROUD parent after the last 11 years. They call me and let me konw what is going on from time to time.

I have tried to instill VALUES in my children to the point of the Golden Rule....remember that one? "Do unto others as you would have done done unto you" now it seems it is "Do to others before the do unto you.":mad:

I believe that morals are black and white. You commit murder, you go to jail for murder. No sentencing. It is the same sentence....life...you can ask for early out, but we get to decide how!

If we stayed more black and white, I think people would act more black and white. And if we apply this acrossed all levels of society, I'm sure that you would see NO RACIAL, ECONOMIC, SEXIST, or (insert lable here) BIAS.

That is why I am a conservative. Let's lay down the law; Lets live within the law; and lets move on.....

Welcome to the REPUBLIC on which I have sworn an oath. And remember, I take an oath to defend it against enemies FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC. DOMESTIC means home grown. We are watching you, I am your BIG BROTHER!:laugh:

Wow, and I didn't even have to throw out the "No, it is not a Democracy, it is a Democratic Process" card.

Whew!

Have a great weekend all!

Looks like capitalism took a piece of my TSP today, oh well.......it's my economics and I'll cry if I want to!:cool:

[CountryBoy]

Frixxxx,

I'm right with ya on the Black/White distinctions. The shades of gray is what has gotten the country in the shape we are. It's either right or wrong, good or evil, procutive member of society/welfare.

I've taught my daughter the same tjing and she got a full ride academic scholarship and now has a very nice job, RN, making more money than I could've ever dreamed of at her age. You can work hard and not be a drag on society or you can be the anchor and dependent on the Gov't, which is the way we are headed, because personal responsibility isn't being taught as a good charateristic to have.

On another note, we shot skeet/trap this afternoon. Boy, I've forgotten how much fun that is. Our daughter is getting us back into that, she joined a gun club in Cincy. :D More shooting this weekend, now that's good quality time and very relaxing. Our daughter is in for the weekend as she is working over the Thanksgiving weekend, so this is our Holiday weekend. So early Happy Thanksgiving.

I hopw your alls week-end ;) is as good as ours is going. :D

[Frixxxx]

Frixxxx,

I'm right with ya on the Black/White distinctions.
It's so much easier this way.

Our daughter is in for the weekend as she is working over the Thanksgiving weekend, so this is our Holiday weekend. So early Happy Thanksgiving.

I hope your alls week-end ;) is as good as ours is going. :D

Happy Thanksgiving, sounds like your family has a LOT to be thankful for!!!!

[CountryBoy]

It's so much easier this way.


Happy Thanksgiving, sounds like your family has a LOT to be thankful for!!!!

Thank you Frixxxx,

And yeah we have been very fortunate and do have a Lot to be thankful. :)

[CountryBoy]

The $100 Million Health Care Vote?

On page 432 of the Reid bill, there is a section increasing federal Medicaid subsidies for “certain states recovering from a major disaster.”

The section spends two pages defining which “states” would qualify, saying, among other things, that it would be states that “during the preceding 7 fiscal years” have been declared a “major disaster area.”

I am told the section applies to exactly one state: Louisiana, the home of moderate Democrat Mary Landrieu, who has been playing hard to get on the health care bill.

In other words, the bill spends two pages describing would could be written with a single world: Louisiana. (This may also help explain why the bill is long.)

Senator Harry Reid, who drafted the bill, cannot pass it without the support of Louisiana’s Mary Landrieu.


http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2009/11/the-100-million-health-care-vote.html

And people wonder why some of us don't trust these so called "representatives" of the people, of either side. All they do is stick their hand out for OUR money and their vote are bought. Total corruption. But the voters let it go on, so apparently the majority of the voters have no problem with corruption or out right ( screw the hyphen gq) bribery, since they continue to vote these folks back in, knowing the kind of record or person they are :mad:

This is just a reflection of morals and ethics of most of the American people, they vote these crooks in. And when folks do stand up, the other side derides them with childish name calling (tea baggers, now that's a jus as bad as calling them a fag, you libs /socialist know exactly what that means, I had to look it up) and some of you have used that term quite often!

Other times when we try to voice our opinion of this outright bribery the union thugs are called in to intimidate them or best yet, barry's thugs demonize and marginalize them, ala Alinsky.

'Nuff said.

[nnuut]

Typical, if you dig deeper you could probably find more stolen GOLD! This EARMARK has nothing to do with Health Care and should be funded by FEMA. Politics as usual, what happened to CHANGE??? BYE BYE 7313

[Show-me]

http://a.abcnews.com/images/Politics/rt_landrieu_reid_091119_mn.jpg

Hey, I'll give you $100 million of taxpayers money if you vote yes.

[Show-me]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SEFWhH9Xgc&feature=player_embedded#

[nnuut]

It's a TRIPLE BUY OFF!!! FIRE EVERY ONE OF THEM!!!:nuts:
AP Top News at 2:52 a.m. EST
(AP) – 8 hours ago
WASHINGTON — Suitably opaque, Section 2006 takes up only a few dozen lines in a sweeping health care bill that runs to 2,074 pages and mentions neither Sen. Mary Landrieu nor her state of Louisiana. But the section's purpose is indisputable: to deliver $100 million or more in federal funds to the state. And in the process clear the way for one of three moderate Democratic fence-sitters — Ben Nelson of Nebraska and Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas are the others — to help propel the legislation past its initial hurdle in a crucial Saturday vote.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g8-DEMtAE9q4i4ySQ0eV_qZefmRQD9C3POCO0

[Buster]

What amazes me is that these crooks are dealing deals with out tax money for their own special interests..but if one of us took one government pen home, our jobs would be on the line..:mad:

[coolhand]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125865361625555975.html

[ezmoney]

Just like deals in the court house. Can't you just see all the money changing hands the illegal bribery and favors taking place right now to pass this health bill. They aren't interested one bit what us idiots think. That's right they think were idiots and they don't think they will be voted out. They are doing just what we have let them do. Until we demand they get out of office before high noon they will destroy us. Just like a wrestling match; when its over they will all be at the White house bar drinking, making merry, laughing and talking about how stupid the people are in their districts. Suffer America we ain't had enough yet!

[coolhand]

http://www.financialsense.com/stormwatch/geo/pastanalysis/2009/1113.html

[wv-girl]

Politics as usual, what happened to CHANGE??? BYE BYE 7313


They CHANGed our dollars into pennies. That is what they must have meant.

[CountryBoy]

It's a TRIPLE BUY OFF!!! FIRE EVERY ONE OF THEM!!!:nuts:
AP Top News at 2:52 a.m. EST
(AP) – 8 hours ago
WASHINGTON — Suitably opaque, Section 2006 takes up only a few dozen lines in a sweeping health care bill that runs to 2,074 pages and mentions neither Sen. Mary Landrieu nor her state of Louisiana. But the section's purpose is indisputable: to deliver $100 million or more in federal funds to the state. And in the process clear the way for one of three moderate Democratic fence-sitters — Ben Nelson of Nebraska and Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas are the others — to help propel the legislation past its initial hurdle in a crucial Saturday vote.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g8-DEMtAE9q4i4ySQ0eV_qZefmRQD9C3POCO0

Actually in turn into $300 Million

And so it came to pass that Landrieu walked onto the Senate floor midafternoon Saturday to announce her aye vote -- and to trumpet the financial "fix" she had arranged for Louisiana. "I am not going to be defensive," she declared. "And it's not a $100 million fix. It's a $300 million fix."

It was an awkward moment (not least because her figure is 20 times the original Louisiana Purchase price). But it was fairly representative of a Senate debate that seems to be scripted in the Southern Gothic style. The plot was gripping -- the bill survived Saturday's procedural test without a single vote to spare -- and it brought out the rank partisanship, the self-absorption and all the other pathologies of modern politics. If that wasn't enough of a Tennessee Williams story line, the debate even had, playing the lead role, a Southerner named Blanche with a flair for the dramatic.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/21/AR2009112102272_pf.html

Again it's just a reflection of the American people who vote these crooks into office who can be bribed with our own money. :( Most people don't care about no one but themselves, not even their childrens future. (Double neg for the consternation of the gq :D)

Great early Thankgiving reunion, about 40 family members showed up and most will be back tomorrow to finish up the food and complete the shooting contests. It's easy since we all live only about 30 minutes apart at the most. In this small bunch we had 4 generations show up.

[Birchtree]

MSNBC apologizes for using fake Palin pictures.

[The HalfBreed]

Wow, that old trick started in 2000 using GW Bush et al as the storyline.
How original !!!

[CountryBoy]

Cash for Clunkers

With a lot of research, a positive result of the “Cash for Clunkers”

program has been found. Although it cost the US taxpayer (that

would be us, don’t forget) $3 Billion, and netted about $320,000

in fuel savings (do the math there, ladies and gentlemen), it really

did have a positive result — it removed thousands of “Obama For

President” bumper-stickers from US Highways. Think about it …

[Birchtree]

It would appear that our liberal progressive moderator has been busy deleting some of my posts in the progressive thread - seems like typical behavior. Oh well....

[tsptalk]

No, that was me. You don't seem to understand the game... http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/showthread.php?t=7748

Do you know what a progressive is? I don't think you are one. Progressives Only means you stay here, or in any other political threads (http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/forumdisplay.php?f=114), but you can't go there to debate. thanks

[Show-me]

Kennedy son 'denied communion' in US abortion row


http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46783000/jpg/_46783797_008315170-1.jpg The late Senator Edward Kennedy's son, Patrick, criticised bishops

The late Edward Kennedy's son, Patrick, has been asked not to receive Holy Communion in a row with a Catholic bishop over his stance on abortion. The US Congressman revealed the move in a newspaper interview.
Bishop Thomas Tobin said there was no formal ban - although he asked him in 2007 not to receive communion.
The row comes after Congressman Kennedy criticised the church for threatening to oppose health care reform unless it included tighter abortion restrictions.
Mr Kennedy says his dispute with the church does not make him any less of a Catholic.
But Bishop Tobin said: "He attacked the church... on health care, on abortion, on funding. And that required that I respond."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8374297.stm

[Birchtree]

Tom,

All I was doing was adding praise to the liberal approach toward education with multiculturalism when I posted: "When Liz Fitzgerald realized her son and daughter were forced to read books in math class while the other children caught up, she had them moved into gifted classes at their suburban Atlanta school."
So frankly it doesn't really matter. I'm just one voice in the wilderness and that's why I don't get involved.

[CountryBoy]

Obama's Nice Guy Act Gets Him Nowhere on the World Stage

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,662822,00.html

Upon taking office, Obama said that he wanted to listen to the world, promising respect instead of arrogance. But Obama's currency isn't as strong as he had believed. Everyone wants respect, but hardly anyone is willing to pay for it. Interests, not emotions, dominate the world of realpolitik. The Asia trip revealed the limits of Washington's new foreign policy: Although Obama did not lose face in China and Japan, he did appear to have lost some of his initial stature.

In Tokyo, the new center-left government even pulled out of its participation in a mission which saw the Japanese navy refueling US warships in the Indian Ocean as part of the Afghanistan campaign. In Beijing, Obama failed to achieve any important concessions whatsoever. There will be no binding commitments from China to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. A revaluation of the Chinese currency, which is kept artificially weak, has been postponed. Sanctions against Iran? Not a chance. Nuclear disarmament? Not an issue for the Chinese.

The White House did not even stand up for itself when it came to the question of human rights in China. The president, who had said only a few days earlier that freedom of expression is a universal right, was coerced into attending a joint press conference with Chinese President Hu Jintao, at which questions were forbidden. Former US President George W. Bush had always managed to avoid such press conferences.

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There are many indications that the man in charge at the White House will take a tougher stance in the future. Obama's advisors fear a comparison with former Democratic President Jimmy Carter, even more than with Bush.


This on the job training is killing us.

[tsptalk]

Tom,

All I was doing was adding praise to the liberal approach toward education with multiculturalism when I posted: "When Liz Fitzgerald realized her son and daughter were forced to read books in math class while the other children caught up, she had them moved into gifted classes at their suburban Atlanta school."
So frankly it doesn't really matter. I'm just one voice in the wilderness and that's why I don't get involved.
It must have gotten mixed up with your posts about not converting you back to heterosexuality and tush p****. I stop reading after a while and just move them.

Besides, it will likely be falling on deaf ears over there, just as this conservatives thread is not for the left to give us their opinion. We'll listen here. Give them their space over there. thanks

[coolhand]

She's going to be signing some books locally here where I live. I'm thinking about stopping by, but I've got the feeling B&N is going to be a zoo. For that matter, the whole mall complex.:laugh:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/11/not-that-it-matters-politically-because-shes-a-republican-idiot-and-hes-a-democrat-geniusbut-sarah-palins-poll-numbers-are-c.html