Charges against New Black Panthers Dropped by Justice

[OBGibby]

Charges Against 'New Black Panthers' Dropped by Obama Justice Dept.

Three men were accused of trying to threaten voters and block poll and campaign workers by the threat of force -- one even brandishing what prosecutors call a deadly weapon.


FOXNews.com
Friday, May 29, 2009


Charges brought against three members of the New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense under the Bush administration have been dropped by the Obama Justice Department, FOX News has learned.

The charges stemmed from an incident at a Philadelphia polling place on Election Day 2008 when three members of the party were accused of trying to threaten voters and block poll and campaign workers by the threat of force -- one even brandishing what prosecutors call a deadly weapon.

The three black panthers, Minister King Samir Shabazz, Malik Zulu Shabazz and Jerry Jackson were charged in a civil complaint in the final days of the Bush administration with violating the voter rights act by using coercion, threats and intimidation. Shabazz allegedly held a nightstick or baton that prosecutors said he pointed at people and menacingly tapped it. Prosecutors also say he "supports racially motivated violence against non-blacks and Jews."

The complaint says the men hurled racial slurs at both blacks and whites.

A poll watcher who provided an affidavit to prosecutors in the case noted that Bartle Bull, who worked as a civil rights lawyer in the south in the 1960's and is a former campaign manager for Robert Kennedy, said it was the most blatant form of voter intimidation he had ever seen.

In his affidavit, obtained by FOX News, Bull wrote "I watched the two uniformed men confront voters and attempt to intimidate voters. They were positioned in a location that forced every voter to pass in close proximity to them. The weapon was openly displayed and brandished in plain sight of voters."

He also said they tried to "interfere with the work of other poll observers ... whom the uniformed men apparently believed did not share their preferences politically," noting that one of the panthers turned toward the white poll observers and said "you are about to be ruled by the black man, cracker."

A spokesman for the Department of Justice told FOX News, "The Justice Department was successful in obtaining an injunction that prohibits the defendant who brandished a weapon outside a Philadelphia polling place from doing so again.

Claims were dismissed against the other defendants based on a careful assessment of the facts and the law. The department is committed to the vigorous prosecution of those who intimidate, threaten or coerce anyone exercising his or her sacred right to vote."

FOX News' Eric Shawn contributed to this report.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2009/05/29/charges-black-panthers-dropped-obama/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGbKHyGuHU

[CountryBoy]

Charges Against 'New Black Panthers' Dropped by Obama Justice Dept.

Three men were accused of trying to threaten voters and block poll and campaign workers by the threat of force -- one even brandishing what prosecutors call a deadly weapon.


FOXNews.com
Friday, May 29, 2009




Charges brought against three members of the New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense under the Bush administration have been dropped by the Obama Justice Department, FOX News has learned.

The charges stemmed from an incident at a Philadelphia polling place on Election Day 2008 when three members of the party were accused of trying to threaten voters and block poll and campaign workers by the threat of force -- one even brandishing what prosecutors call a deadly weapon.

The three black panthers, Minister King Samir Shabazz, Malik Zulu Shabazz and Jerry Jackson were charged in a civil complaint in the final days of the Bush administration with violating the voter rights act by using coercion, threats and intimidation. Shabazz allegedly held a nightstick or baton that prosecutors said he pointed at people and menacingly tapped it. Prosecutors also say he "supports racially motivated violence against non-blacks and Jews."

The complaint says the men hurled racial slurs at both blacks and whites.

A poll watcher who provided an affidavit to prosecutors in the case noted that Bartle Bull, who worked as a civil rights lawyer in the south in the 1960's and is a former campaign manager for Robert Kennedy, said it was the most blatant form of voter intimidation he had ever seen.

In his affidavit, obtained by FOX News, Bull wrote "I watched the two uniformed men confront voters and attempt to intimidate voters. They were positioned in a location that forced every voter to pass in close proximity to them. The weapon was openly displayed and brandished in plain sight of voters."

He also said they tried to "interfere with the work of other poll observers ... whom the uniformed men apparently believed did not share their preferences politically," noting that one of the panthers turned toward the white poll observers and said "you are about to be ruled by the black man, cracker."

A spokesman for the Department of Justice told FOX News, "The Justice Department was successful in obtaining an injunction that prohibits the defendant who brandished a weapon outside a Philadelphia polling place from doing so again.

Claims were dismissed against the other defendants based on a careful assessment of the facts and the law. The department is committed to the vigorous prosecution of those who intimidate, threaten or coerce anyone exercising his or her sacred right to vote."

FOX News' Eric Shawn contributed to this report.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2009/05/29/charges-black-panthers-dropped-obama/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGbKHyGuHU

What'd expect from the bHo administration. The word has come down from the man himself. I don't things would have went this way if it was a KKK member standing there with a cross. But then we'll never know and hopefully we want have to find out. We mustn't hurt the sensitivities of bHo's supporters. :mad: We're going to see alot more of this type of hypocrisy and favoritism. This is sickening.

CB

[mojo]

Just looking out for his base.

[Buster]

Just looking out for his base.

Don't you mean; Race?

[The HalfBreed]

Accusations don't equal Guilt. Kinda like when the KKK were absolved from Hanging folk.....but without the twist.

Ironic, huh ?

[OBGibby]

Accusations don't equal Guilt. Kinda like when the KKK were absolved from Hanging folk.....but without the twist.

Ironic, huh ?

Ironic? No. Disappointing would be a much more appropriate description. Of course, in a world will some people still think O.J. Simpson is innocent, it doesn't surprise me that the actions of New Black Panthers, as described by the Justice Department (and the video), go unpunished.

[The HalfBreed]

Ironic? No. Disappointing would be a much more appropriate description. Of course, in a world will some people still think O.J. Simpson is innocent, it doesn't surprise me that the actions of New Black Panthers, as described by the Justice Department (and the video), go unpunished.

Well, as I said....the Justice Dept. had no evidence, so Justice prevailed.

That's the way the legal system works....:p

Regardless of what "SOME" folks may think.

[OBGibby]

Well, as I said....the Justice Dept. had no evidence, so Justice prevailed.

That's the way the legal system works....:p

Regardless of what "SOME" folks may think.

Your assertion that the Justice Department had no evidence lacks any grounding in fact or reason.

On the contrary, the way the legal system is supposed to work is that the government presents its case and lets the jury or judge determine what to accept as fact, and renders judgement.

Unfortunately, in this case, in what appears to smack of political influence, justice did not prevail because it never got to see the light of day. Disappointing.

[The HalfBreed]

Your assertion that the Justice Department had no evidence lacks any grounding in fact or reason.

On the contrary, the way the legal system is supposed to work is that the government presents its case and lets the jury or judge determine what to accept as fact, and renders judgement.

Unfortunately, in this case, in what appears to smack of political influence, justice did not prevail because it never got to see the light of day. Disappointing.


Well, if it was "GOOD Evidence", they would've brought it to trial. Apparently, they know a weak case when they see it....although there are "SOME" people who would crucify, regardless of the evidence, because they are "That Way".

[OBGibby]

Well, if it was "GOOD Evidence", they would've brought it to trial. Apparently, they know a weak case when they see it....although there are "SOME" people who would crucify, regardless of the evidence, because they are "That Way".

What exactly do you mean by "That Way?"

[The HalfBreed]

Sooo, I guess these lonely TWO guys were the reason President Obama won by an Electoral Landslide of 365 to Mac Cane / Palin 173. and popular vote of about 53% to 47%....much higher than both of Bush's wins.

This is just small potatoes in the scheme of life. what drudgery. :blink:

[Viva La Migra]

Sooo, I guess these lonely TWO guys were the reason President Obama won by an Electoral Landslide of 365 to Mac Cane / Palin 173. and popular vote of about 53% to 47%....much higher than both of Bush's wins.

This is just small potatoes in the scheme of life. what drudgery. :blink:
Not quite, but had it been a white supremacist group preventing minorities from voting you would want criminal charges to be filed. It's called justice, maybe you've heard of it?

BHO organized a better campaign than JSM (John Sidney McCain). Voter turn out was impressive, in part due to questionable practices of NBP and ACORN, and in part due to conservative apathy. JSM was not the conservative's choice and how he got the nomination still confounds many. Personally I would have preferred to see Condi Rice and Sarah Palin run on the ticket! Two strong, intelligent, articulate, and, dare I say it, attractive women running for the two highest offices in the land! That would have been interesting!

[OBGibby]

What exactly do you mean by "That Way?"


THE HALFBREED -

Still waiting...

[The HalfBreed]

Not quite, but had it been a white supremacist group preventing minorities from voting you would want criminal charges to be filed. It's called justice, maybe you've heard of it?

Obviously, you should learn more about American History. There was the "Poll Tax" (http://afroamhistory.about.com/od/bloodysunday/p/polltax.htm), "GrandFather Clauses" (http://afroamhistory.about.com/od/bloodysunday/p/gfatherclause.htm) , "Literacy Tests" (http://afroamhistory.about.com/od/bloodysunday/p/literacytests.htm) , and more....so, spare me your diatribe about preventing minorities from voting. And, this has been happening in MY Lifetime...something you obviously haven't been aware of. And, these things went on for decades, since the beginning of America even, and not even rectified until the 60's....partially. There's your "Justice".

You equate one instance to 100+ years of history? :blink:

[Viva La Migra]

Obviously, you should learn more about American History. There was the "Poll Tax" (http://afroamhistory.about.com/od/bloodysunday/p/polltax.htm), "GrandFather Clauses" (http://afroamhistory.about.com/od/bloodysunday/p/gfatherclause.htm) , "Literacy Tests" (http://afroamhistory.about.com/od/bloodysunday/p/literacytests.htm) , and more....so, spare me your diatribe about preventing minorities from voting. And, this has been happening in MY Lifetime...something you obviously haven't been aware of. And, these things went on for decades, since the beginning of America even, and not even rectified until the 60's....partially. There's your "Justice".

You equate one instance to 100+ years of history? :blink:
No genius. I'm saying it is wrong for any one social group to prevent another from voting in a free election. Period! End of discussion!

You are correct that I was not part of the segregation era, but that doesn't mean I don't know what happened. What happened then was wrong. What happened in the last election was equally wrong. What you're saying is blacks should be allowed to block whites from voting, because whites did it to blacks at one time in American history. I disagree.

I take it you are one that wants "reparations" from me for slavery, even though you were never enslaved and neither I nor my family, though we are white, owned slaves. You must be a Jesse Jackson disciple who believes that I, by virtue of being white, have benefitted from slavery and are therefore indebted to blacks. I disagree.

[The HalfBreed]

No genius. I'm saying it is wrong for any one social group to prevent another from voting in a free election. Period! End of discussion!

You are correct that I was not part of the segregation era, but that doesn't mean I don't know what happened. What happened then was wrong. What happened in the last election was equally wrong. What you're saying is blacks should be allowed to block whites from voting, because whites did it to blacks at one time in American history. I disagree.

I take it you are one that wants "reparations" from me for slavery, even though you were never enslaved and neither I nor my family, though we are white, owned slaves. You must be a Jesse Jackson disciple who believes that I, by virtue of being white, have benefitted from slavery and are therefore indebted to blacks. I disagree.


You certainly assume alot, don't you ?

This is about charges being dropped. If there were any justification in continuing these charges against the BP Party, they would be done. Apparently, there are no substantial facts to enable prosecution, therefore, it was disbanded.
The matter has been dropped by the appropriate authorities.

Period.

End of Discussion.

[OBGibby]

If there were any justification in continuing these charges against the BP Party, they would be done. Apparently, there are no substantial facts to enable prosecution, therefore, it was disbanded.
The matter has been dropped by the appropriate authorities.

Period.

End of Discussion.


AH! Finally back to the original discussion. I feel, as do others, that there was SUBSTANTIAL evidence relative to the allegations against the New Black Panthers. Video footage and a sworn statement from a credible (some might say unimpeachable) witness - If all my cases had that kind of evidence I'd be in heaven.

The point you appear to have missed, or maybe you simply choose to ignore, is that the circumstances surrounding the decision not to further criminal or civil action against the New Black Panthers appears to have political fingerprints on it.

And yes, THE HALFBREED, I'm still waiting for an explanation of your "that way" comment highlighted earlier in the thread.

[Steadygain]

HalfBreed,
I haven't bothered to involve myself in this subject and it's not because I think too highly of myself or too lowly of others - it's simply that no one can keep up with everything.

Just scanning over some of the posts however I would say this is likely something you feel pretty stong about; and usually the stronger someone feels about something the more their opinion is essentially unmovable. This can be a huge obstacle in communicating with others - and may totally blind a person to the whole picture by not allowing them to appreciate some deeper insights others may share.

It's OK to share your opinion - but that is best given and received in a spirit of openness.

[Viva La Migra]

You certainly assume alot, don't you ?

This is about charges being dropped. If there were any justification in continuing these charges against the BP Party, they would be done. Apparently, there are no substantial facts to enable prosecution, therefore, it was disbanded.
The matter has been dropped by the appropriate authorities.

Period.

End of Discussion.
I work in law enforcement and I know about "prosecutorial discretion." I use this on a regular basis in my job. Sometimes you have evidence to prove your case, but one factor or another (not necessarily related to the case) causes you to not pursue prosecution. Though I have not seen the official evidence the US Attorney's office had in this case, and from the reports I have read and heard about in the news, I believe there was substantial evidence to move forward with prosecution. Someone above the local AUSA gave the order to drop the charges. I agree with OBGibby, this was politics plain and simple.

Please accept my humble apologies if I offended you, or anyone else that read my posts, with my comments. I allowed your comments regarding my knowledge of history to get me riled up and I responded in kind. I should have responded differently.

[The HalfBreed]

I work in law enforcement and I know about "prosecutorial discretion." I use this on a regular basis in my job. Sometimes you have evidence to prove your case, but one factor or another (not necessarily related to the case) causes you to not pursue prosecution.

No sweat.....many that work in Law Enforcement are not part and parcel of the Judicial System, hence, an Attorney/Prosecutor/Defender would have the best 'feel' or "knowledge" of what is appropriate or not, in terms of the ability to prosecute.

In a nutshell, I'll trust their judgement.....no one here on this board is privy to their information.......regardless of one's 'opinion'....even mine. I only go by the fact that it was dismissed. Some may or may not believe that justice has been served. I'm only pointing out that, it depends on one's point of view.

Case in Point.....

The Lynching of Emmett Till (http://www.educationforum.co.uk/emmetttill.htm)

Was it right or wrong? One one side of the coin, you have all those in Mississippi (back then) saying the trial was fair and square, while others thought it was a sham. Back then, all of the accused were absolved of any crime. Follow me? Now IF that were the case today, in reverse, I could understand one's feelings about justice not being served. Maybe, Just MAYBE, they could, for once, understand the travesty of justice that was "Miscarried" for decades, if not a century or more.

Justice works wonders........in both directions. Maybe now, some who feel that the dropped charges against the Black Panther Party are in error. Now, they see the "OTHER" side of the coin.

Right or wrong is not the issue now......as it's a done deal. However, this is the justice system. It works both ways.......

so, for some that are angry at the results, should look to the injustices done 'in the other direction' and not be so 'hurt' when things don't go their way.
Some folks have learned to deal with it.........others should as well.

[Viva La Migra]

No sweat.....many that work in Law Enforcement are not part and parcel of the Judicial System, hence, an Attorney/Prosecutor/Defender would have the best 'feel' or "knowledge" of what is appropriate or not, in terms of the ability to prosecute.

In a nutshell, I'll trust their judgement.....no one here on this board is privy to their information.......regardless of one's 'opinion'....even mine. I only go by the fact that it was dismissed. Some may or may not believe that justice has been served. I'm only pointing out that, it depends on one's point of view.

Case in Point.....

The Lynching of Emmett Till (http://www.educationforum.co.uk/emmetttill.htm)

Was it right or wrong? One one side of the coin, you have all those in Mississippi (back then) saying the trial was fair and square, while others thought it was a sham. Back then, all of the accused were absolved of any crime. Follow me? Now IF that were the case today, in reverse, I could understand one's feelings about justice not being served. Maybe, Just MAYBE, they could, for once, understand the travesty of justice that was "Miscarried" for decades, if not a century or more.

Justice works wonders........in both directions. Maybe now, some who feel that the dropped charges against the Black Panther Party are in error. Now, they see the "OTHER" side of the coin.

Right or wrong is not the issue now......as it's a done deal. However, this is the justice system. It works both ways.......

so, for some that are angry at the results, should look to the injustices done 'in the other direction' and not be so 'hurt' when things don't go their way.
Some folks have learned to deal with it.........others should as well.
We obviously will not agree on this issue. You're still saying that the Black Panthers are justified in preventing whites from voting because of the past injustices by whites. I think you need to focus on your last sentence and take it to heart.

I was always taught that two wrongs don't make a right. If it was wrong for whites to prevent blacks from voting, and it was/is, then it should also be wrong for blacks to prevent whites from voting, and it is.

[Birchtree]

This issue can easily be solved - take your gun when you go to vote. I went to war so we all could vote and I would have no reservations in removing anyone that wants to stand in my way and not allow me to vote. Why do you think the country is in the process of arming?

[Viva La Migra]

This issue can easily be solved - take your gun when you go to vote. I went to war so we all could vote and I would have no reservations in removing anyone that wants to stand in my way and not allow me to vote. Why do you think the country is in the process of arming?
Agreed, but there's a better way. In California voters can sign up for permanent absentee ballots. I did this and I get my ballot in the mail. I just punch my ballot and mail it in. Problem solved!

[Steadygain]

Agreed

Problem solved!

Sorry - not yet.

Birch made 'The Motion' and you 'Seconded it'

BUT WE STILL NEED TO CALL ON THE VOTE

All in Favor:
8,247,730,295,623, 709,244,933,489,632

All opposed:
3

Now Problem Solved :D:D

[Gumby]

All in Favor:
8,247,730,295,623, 709,244,933,489,632

:D:D

Is this the "NEW" national debt?

You will have to write this number out like a check ledger so I can comprehend the vote.:D

[The HalfBreed]

We obviously will not agree on this issue. You're still saying that the Black Panthers are justified in preventing whites from voting because of the past injustices by whites. I think you need to focus on your last sentence and take it to heart.

I was always taught that two wrongs don't make a right. If it was wrong for whites to prevent blacks from voting, and it was/is, then it should also be wrong for blacks to prevent whites from voting, and it is.

STOP trying to change what I'm trying to explain to you, and others.

I am NOT saying it's justified, but I AM saying the courts rulings, whether we feel it's right or wrong IS the court ruling. I may not agree with it, then, or now, but I will not take up space on a BBS and whine about what I believe may (or may not) be a miscarriage of Justice.

Others feel it's their right to whine/complain that "THEY" don't feel it's right.
If you feel justice has not been served and want to point it out, I can point out other times where I feel justice has not been served.

Well, welcome to the world.........That's a sword that cuts both ways.

[Viva La Migra]

STOP trying to change what I'm trying to explain to you, and others.

I am NOT saying it's justified, but I AM saying the courts rulings, whether we feel it's right or wrong IS the court ruling. I may not agree with it, then, or now, but I will not take up space on a BBS and whine about what I believe may (or may not) be a miscarriage of Justice.

Others feel it's their right to whine/complain that "THEY" don't feel it's right.
If you feel justice has not been served and want to point it out, I can point out other times where I feel justice has not been served.

Well, welcome to the world.........That's a sword that cuts both ways.
It never made it to the court for a ruling. Had it gone through the prosecution process, and the Black Panthers were found not guilty, I could live with that. I might not like it, but that is how the system works. What is a shame, is that the system was not given a chance to work.

Before you go there, I know there are circumstances in the past where the same thing happened, but it was the white guy that did not face prosecution. Once again two wrongs do not make a right.

What I have not heard you say, is that you think the actions of the accused Black Panthers, if true, is wrong. Instead, you point out that whites have done the same and worse to blacks in the past. Do you believe that it is wrong for one social group to prevent another social group from voting? Can we at least agree on this?

[OBGibby]

STOP trying to change what I'm trying to explain to you, and others....

I am NOT saying it's justified, but I AM saying the courts rulings, whether we feel it's right or wrong IS the court ruling. I may not agree with it, then, or now, but I will not take up space on a BBS and whine about what I believe may (or may not) be a miscarriage of Justice.

Others feel it's their right to whine/complain that "THEY" don't feel it's right.
If you feel justice has not been served and want to point it out, I can point out other times where I feel justice has not been served.

Well, welcome to the world.........That's a sword that cuts both ways.

THE HALFBREED -

1. Since you seem to think others have misinterpreted your words and intent, I suggest you do a better job of explaining your positions. You've presented ill-informed arguments and have shifted the discussion into areas with no direct relation.

2. As another poster has appropriately pointed out, the issue at hand was never settled by a court - that is the crux of this entire discussion which you have consistently failed to grasp.

3. It is wholly irrevelant to this discussion whether or not previous instances of illegality or racism went unnoticed or unpunished. This discussion is solely focused on a well documented incident involving the New Black Panthers.

4. I've found your comments in this thread to skirt a very thin line relative to racist overtones and I find that especially unfortunate.

5. Concerning your barb directed squarely at those that, like myself, that to use your words, "whine/complain" about this issue: I take great comfort by voicing my concerns. You're free to defend your position as you wish (it's a great country we have, isn't it?), I just wish you would have brought a little more thought to it.

[JTH]

This thread sucks...

[nnuut]

Man!:suspicious:

[Steadygain]

HalfBreed,
I haven't bothered to involve myself in this subject and it's not because I think too highly of myself or too lowly of others - it's simply that no one can keep up with everything.

Just scanning over some of the posts however I would say this is likely something you feel pretty stong about; and usually the stronger someone feels about something the more their opinion is essentially unmovable. This can be a huge obstacle in communicating with others - and may totally blind a person to the whole picture by not allowing them to appreciate some deeper insights others may share.

It's OK to share your opinion - but that is best given and received in a spirit of openness.

Hey man I'm just trying to be a friend - seriously I'm nobody and I sure don't have all the answers ... and am largely grounded in whatever I've heard, known, or experienced.

Whatever the issue you're trying to convey - I'd say if your convictions honestly make you feel like a better person then be grateful for that and just let it ride.

But trying to bestow 'your convictions' on others - regardless of who it is - is an endless battle if they don't share those convictions.

This is what happened when the 'Pure and Innocent' 'Good hearted new comers to the USA' did with the Native Americans - and were wholly convinced by 'THEIR THINKING' - what they were doing was 'Proper and Justisifed'. And you can carry that over to essentially everything else.

So I'd say your best bet is simply 'drop the subject' and don't feel like you need to defend yourself. Everyone else will have a much easier time 'recognizing how cool :cool: you really are' by simply 'letting it go' and moving on.

You're clouding 'the real you' man - and I hate to see that.

THE HALFBREED -

1. Since you seem to think others have misinterpreted your words and intent, I suggest you do a better job of explaining your positions.

PLEASE - don't give into the challenge. It's not worth it man and you'll be way higher thought of by simply 'letting it go'.

[The HalfBreed]

Can we at least agree on this?


That we can agree on.....

Many "Issues" like that, back then, and even now, have never been brought to justice. If the DA or Prosecuting Atty thought there was not enough evidence (can you or I believe it?) to prosecute, who are we to say they're wrong>?

[McDuck]

I am NOT saying it's justified, but I AM saying the courts rulings, whether we feel it's right or wrong IS the court ruling.

http://toppun.com/Martin-Luther-King/Never-forget-Hitler-legal.gif

[Buster]

29jDI9flryU

[McDuck]

29jDI9flryU
When you are questioned by the police, it is best to be courteous and not have a attitude. Most of the time, they just want the situation diffused and to be assured that there not be farther conflicts if they leave.

Interfering with police is a crime all by itself.

[McDuck]

29jDI9flryU

pmJJpOso-70

[Buster]

When you are questioned by the police, it is best to be courteous and not have a attitude. Most of the time, they just want the situation diffused and to be assured that there not be farther conflicts if they leave.

Interfering with police is a crime all by itself.


This is one opinion we both can agree on...



Have a happy and safe Independence Day....Cheers..http://www.hummeraddicts.com/Smileys/Lots_O_Smileys/occasion14.gif

[nnuut]

Abuse is all that it was::worried:
http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/lapd/kingarrests.html

[Birchtree]

Where did that last Manning tape disappear to? Gosh, is my president a bisexual male? Does it even matter these days. Jackson had a hidden girlfriend for ten years and I bet BHO has one also.

[McDuck]

Where did that last Manning tape disappear to? Gosh, is my president a bisexual male? Does it even matter these days. Jackson had a hidden girlfriend for ten years and I bet BHO has one also.
Actually Pastor Manning and Ambassador Allen Keys both says that BHO is on the "down-low".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMr0mryQ9pc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ijw6mUW0i8

[The HalfBreed]

Actually Pastor Manning and Ambassador Allen Keys both says that BHO is on the "down-low".

Geez, you found it on YOUTUBE !!! :blink:



That MUST be The Word of God!!! :sick:

[Viva La Migra]

That we can agree on.....

Many "Issues" like that, back then, and even now, have never been brought to justice. If the DA or Prosecuting Atty thought there was not enough evidence (can you or I believe it?) to prosecute, who are we to say they're wrong>?
Glad we agree on something.;) Who are we to say they're wrong? Americans, with the freedom to do so!:cool:

[OBGibby]

PAPER: No. 3 at Justice OK'd Black Panther reversal; Case involved polling place in Philadelphia... (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jul/30/no-3-at-justice-okd-panther-reversal/?feat=home_cube_position1)

[Buster]

Cheers..http://www.hummeraddicts.com/Smileys/Lots_O_Smileys/occasion14.gif


Listen to the sound bite: (Self loads)
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2009/07/23/2009-07-23_sgt_james_crowley_cop_who_arrested_henry_louis_ gates_denies_hes_a_racist.html

[OBGibby]

The Justice Department's Black Panther Scandal Continues

The pursuit of justice in the Black Panther voter intimidation case is moving forward on two fronts. Rep. Frank Wolf (R-VA) obtained an opinion from the Congressional Research Service last week that charges against the three Philadelphia men who intimidated and threatened white voters on Election Day 2008 could be re-filed without violating the Constitution's Double Jeopardy clause. Also, the independent U.S. Commission on Civil Rights has called upon the Justice Department to explain its dismissal of the original case against the men.

In May, the Obama Justice Department summarily dismissed charges brought by the Bush Justice Department in January against the New Black Panther Party, its Chairman Malik Zulu Shabazz (former lieutenant to Louis Farrakhan), Minister King Samir Shabazz and member Jerry Jackson for intimidating voters and making racial threats and insults at a polling place in Philadelphia. Samir Shabazz was also carrying a nightstick. The Justice Department said it no longer had sufficient evidence to follow through with the case despite the fact that the event was caught on video and that there were several witnesses.

DOJ also says charges against Mr. Jackson were dropped because "he was a resident of the apartment building" where the incident took place. The building was in fact an elderly care facility and Jackson never lived there. But even if he did, would his residency grant him license to shout racial epithets at and otherwise threaten voters? Incredibly, Jackson's credentials as a Democrat Party poll watcher in Philadelphia were restored in May.

Wolf repeatedly called upon Attorney General Eric Holder to explain why the Department acted the way it did. Holder refused to respond. Apparently, he belongs to that "nation of cowards" he spoke of earlier this year; the one that's afraid to "have frank conversations about the racial matters that continue to divide us."

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[Show-me]

There is not favoritism in America. :D Tit for tat.

[CountryBoy]

Laws seem to be such pesky speed bumps for this crowd and are just things to slip around to get their agend in place. Another example.

The Privacy Act of 1974, which was passed after the Nixon administration used federal agencies to illegally investigate individuals for political purposes. Enacted after Richard Nixon's resignation in the Watergate scandal, the statute generally prohibits any federal agency from maintaining records on individuals exercising their right to free speech.

The White House has been under fire since it posted a blog on Tuesday that asked supporters to e-mail any "fishy" information seen on the Web or received electronically to flag@whitehouse.gov.

Noting but the facts ma'am. Can't let those pesky facts stop the steam roller.

CB (RWE)

[The HalfBreed]

Laws seem to be such pesky speed bumps for this crowd and are just things to slip around to get their agend in place. Another example.

Noting but the facts ma'am. Can't let those pesky facts stop the steam roller.

CB (RWE)


Yep...Spy on Americans without approval, intercept phone calls, the list is endless......McCarthyism at its' best. Thank goodness 2000-2006 is over and done with.

[OBGibby]

Yep...Spy on Americans without approval, intercept phone calls, the list is endless......McCarthyism at its' best. Thank goodness 2000-2006 is over and done with.

More nonsense that the Left has portrayed as fact, yet fails to stand up to any reasonable scrutiny as being anywhere near accurate. But I guess it serves its purpose for the Left by rallying the leftists and filling Democratic campaign coffers. It wouldn't be the first time the Left has pushed the truth out of the way to further their goals.