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CountryBoy
04-23-2009, 10:52 AM
Yep folks this may be a little long, but it is now LAW and for those who care about the future of America and our offspring, should be aware of what's going on. The press has not shined the light on this at all or even questioned it. That was one of the main reason's that the US Constituition gave freedom to the press, so that they could keep an eye on the Government and not let them get away with what has been happening the past 100 days. But they are nothing more than a mouthpiece for the bHo Junta. They have failed to do their job.

Try to have an open mind and be intellectually honest. I know a couple of folks here will just blow it off right away, because their politics are as well known as mine and now Buster I'm not talking about you. :D

President Obama signed into law, April 21, the "GIVE Act," H.R. 1388, which massively expands the National Service Corporation and allocates to it billions of dollars, and one executive for the program now says it will allow for the "managing" of up to 8 or 9 million people.
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The bill includes a "National Service Reserve Corps" whose members have completed a "term of national service," "training" and "not less than 10 hours of volunteering each year."

In a conference call with reporters on the plan, Alan Solomont, chairman of the Corporation for National and Community Service, said the 75,000 current members of the AmericCorps program "leverage" about 2.2 million volunteers, and the total of all such volunteers who are managed through the federal program total about 4 million.

He said the possibility with the expanded authorization and funding means that up to 8 or 9 million could be involved.

"If we triple the size of AmeriCorps from 75,000 members to 250,000 members annually, and if we – if those 75,000 AmeriCorps members are currently engaging 2.2. million volunteers a year, we could triple that to 6.6 million volunteers, 250,000 AmeriCorps members. So I think – you can do the math – I think that was about six or seven million, and then we have another half a million in Senior Corps and another million or so in Learn and Serve America [for children]," he said.

It's a well known fact, that Obama delivered his Colorado Springs mandate and a copy of the speech provided online apparently was edited to exclude Obama's specific references to the new force.

Congress also is considering a "public service academy, a four-year institution that offers a federally funded undergraduate education with a focus on training future public sector leaders."

"If we're going to create some kind of national police force as big, powerful and well-funded as our combined U.S. military forces, isn't this rather a big deal?" Farah wrote. "I thought Democrats generally believed the U.S. spent too much on the military. How is it possible their candidate is seeking to create some kind of massive but secret national police force that will be even bigger than the Army, Navy, Marines and Air Force put together? (my comment, can you say Gestapo? Private police force reporting to who?)
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The White House announced today that the focus of the program will be "clean energy, education, health care, veterans care, and economic opportunity." (My comment, don’t pi$$ on my leg and tell me it’s raining, a lot of folks need to get their BS meter recalibrated, if they are swallowing this).

Melody Barnes, director of the White House domestic policy council, confirmed the plan was in response to Obama's demand for civilian service during his campaign.

"That's certainly something that the president has spoken about. And he started his call around nation service publicly during the course of the campaign when he talked about the fact that government cannot be a solution to all of our problems, and we have to work together," she said.
Officials said there also are specific programs for seniors and children to become involved in the government operation, and the plan goes far beyond just working on planting trees or addressing storm damage.

"The bill provides the opportunity for a social innovation fund," said one official, which will allow the government to pursue changes.
The plan also raises FIRST AMENDMENT issues over its limitations on what various corps participants are allowed to do.

For example, it BILL STATES those in an "approved national service position" may not try to influence legislation, engage in protests or petitions, take positions on union organizing, engage in partisan political activities, or, among other issues, be "engaging in religious instruction, conducting worship services, providing instruction as part of a program that includes mandatory religious instruction or worship, constructing or operating facilities devoted to religious instruction or worship, maintaining facilities primarily or inherently devoted to religious instruction or worship, or engaging in any form of proselytization." (My comment, what the Hell happen to our freedoms of choice here? Although I know that is becoming pretty passe and out of the mainstream to even consider such freedoms anymore. We must march goose step with our vaunted leader or else get put on a list of mat-content and potential trouble makers. Must watch my words. Who knows who's listening. ;) )

Judi McLeod of Canada Free Press wrote that the bill simply would turn everyone into a community organizer.

"Everybody means the roughly seven million people called to public duty in the $6 billion National Service effort," she said. "But members pressed into the service of the one million-strong Youth Brigade, sanctioned by 'Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education (GIVE),' will HAVE NONE OF THE FREEDOMS of the community organizer who started it all.

"There's no room for God in Obama's long promised Youth Brigade, no room to protest, petition, to boycott or to support a strike, and loopholes to give its mandatory membership a pass," she wrote. "Obama's plan requires anyone receiving school loans, among others to serve at least three months as part of the brigade."

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"Hitler knew that if you control the youth, you control the future. ….. Hitler said: 'The Youth of today is ever the people of tomorrow. For this reason we have set before ourselves the task of innoculating our youth with the spirit of this community of the people at a very early age, at an age when human beings are still unperverted and therefore unspoiled,'" he wrote.

I sure don’t know about you, but this law leaves, the door open for the formation of storm troopers from the ‘30’s . Oh, I know you bHo apologist/socialists will pooh-pooh the idea and see nothing wrong with it. Well, give your children and grandchildren the book 1984, because group think is on the way. You all done darn well how these things get twisted by activist judges. All it has t do is get by the 9th Circuit court and we’re screwed, if we are already.

The Government will have the right to take your kids away from you and indoctrinate them to the beliefs of the gov’t, not what you believe, but I know some folks are really looking forward to this type of Gov’t ala Castro and Chavez, where our socialist leader spent time being but buddies with these 2 and picking up pointers on how to destroy our freedoms without any uprising from the people.

And when the people do get together to express there feelings, ala the Tea Parties, they are ridiculed as being extremists and not having a coherent plan. Well guess what, neither did our founding fathers in the beginning and that seemed to work out OK for over 200 years, but now, we have a bunch of bHo lovers and socialists that have done more damage in 100 days, than any pres has done and they are rejoicing or making excuses for their beloved leader.

Capitalization was for emphasis only. Not yelling. I've become resign to the fact that this socialist government will happen, due to the apathy being exhibited by the majority of the people and the ridicule of those that do try to express their concern, regardless of how disjointed their inital efforts were.


http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=95674

I think my sig line says it all. And yeah for those that are none believers. they need to brush up on their history to see the many parallels of the last 100 days, but then you can ignore them also, particularily if you're happy with life. 2010 will tell decide the future of my Country.

CB

KevinD
04-23-2009, 08:18 PM
Fine rant. I give it a 9! :D (there are no 10s)

ChemEng
04-23-2009, 09:05 PM
Calling AmeriCorps part of a "secret national police force" is a wee bit of a stretch, dontcha think? It may be time to buy some stock in the companies that make aluminum hats...

Regardless, I'll take BHO's initiative even a step further--fulfilling mandated public service period is requisite to vote. There is an expensive cost for the freedom to vote-there should be a related cost associated to enjoy it.

CountryBoy
04-23-2009, 09:05 PM
Fine rant. I give it a 9! :D (there are no 10s)


Thanks Kevin,

I just couldn't stick that last landing. :D

CB

Just a cry in the wilderness. :worried:

KevinD
04-23-2009, 11:17 PM
There is an expensive cost for the freedom to vote-there should be a related cost associated to enjoy it.

Paying taxes should cover that. If you don't pay any taxes, you shouldn't get to vote. JMO...

ChemEng
04-24-2009, 12:05 AM
Paying taxes should cover that. If you don't pay any taxes, you shouldn't get to vote. JMO...
Interesting idea. Although I wouldn't want the wrath of every stay at home mom raising children around the country focused on me... :)

Viva La Migra
04-24-2009, 05:14 AM
Paying taxes should cover that. If you don't pay any taxes, you shouldn't get to vote. JMO...
Many illegal immigrants pay taxes...so you think they should be eligible to legally vote in U.S. elections? I don't think so!

CountryBoy
04-24-2009, 11:23 AM
Calling AmeriCorps part of a "secret national police force" is a wee bit of a stretch, dontcha think? It may be time to buy some stock in the companies that make aluminum hats...

Regardless, I'll take BHO's initiative even a step further--fulfilling mandated public service period is requisite to vote. There is an expensive cost for the freedom to vote-there should be a related cost associated to enjoy it.

Uh, I didn't except anything else from a bHo apologist, but you kinda brushed over the fact, about his comment that this peaceful group of people will be armed to the degree of our current military, if he has his way, he has even mentioned this amount of arming. I'm sure you'll be a proud parent when your children "voluntarily join" this group with their allegiance to ......?

But that's your choice, enjoy our new socilaistic world, cause as MLK, Jr. said, it's all legal as definately has historical precidence.

Hail to .....:laugh:

CB

CountryBoy
04-24-2009, 11:35 AM
Interesting idea. Although I wouldn't want the wrath of every stay at home mom raising children around the country focused on me... :)

Ya can't please eveybody, but where I come from, you pay to play, and if you don't have any skin in the game, you have no incentive to make any intelligent choices for the good of the country. You are only concerned with what the country will give you. Sometimes you have to man up and take a stand and quit be so wishy washy on pleasing everyone.

My wife was a stay at home mother, while she raised our daughter and I work and we lived on 1 salary. So I don't understand why you think that this group is going to be pissed, unless you talking about the welfare moms, who just pump'em out for the cash and don't think about the lack of responsibility they are showing to ther kids, which just causes the circle to continue.

I could really careless less, about the lazy, unproductive people in this country that can work but simply want to game the system and especially what they think of me. (Caveat, those that want to improve themselves and need a helping hand, I'm all for helping them). I know I really worry about it all the time. ;) I tend to worry about my own offsprings future and those that want to improve, before I worry about those unwilling to try to better themselves

CB

KevinD
04-24-2009, 11:36 AM
Many illegal immigrants pay taxes...so you think they should be eligible to legally vote in U.S. elections? I don't think so!

Me neither. :D

Edit to add: Do these illegals fill out a 1040? :confused:

Viva La Migra
04-24-2009, 08:09 PM
Me neither. :D

Edit to add: Do these illegals fill out a 1040? :confused:
I would think some do, since the illegal immigrant rights groups chant that illegals pay taxes, but perhaps one of our IRS friends could answer that one? Also, legal immigrants pay taxes, and absolutely file tax returns. They have not taken the oath of citizenship, so should they be allowed to vote?
They should be citizens, with loyalty to the United States, though one could argue that Sean Penn and Johnny Depp are not loyal enough to the United States and should therefore be stripped of their right to vote! That's another subject altogether!:D

Steadygain
04-24-2009, 08:42 PM
Many illegal immigrants pay taxes...so you think they should be eligible to legally vote in U.S. elections? I don't think so!


Well what the heck :rolleyes:

I'm in one of those 'rare moods' where I need to unwind a little.

I think considering the ERA we are currently living through that Obama is the greatest President to date. He is pretty much in the same position as Lincoln (sp) who undoubtedly received enormous criticism during his reign. So throw the Globe and all the more the USA into it's worst state ever - and see what he does.

He elimates torture.
He sparks the greatest spread of Volunteers to reach out to others and make this world a better place.
He makes it clear that the BIG EXECS are in a different ballpark under him and immediately sets a Cap on their Income.
He travels the world and he and his wife are hugely received in England and with other prominent rulers around the globe.
He tells the Credit Card companies - get real and be real
He tells the Auto Industry - screw the BS and show us you mean business if you want any help.

Of course I could go on and on - about the enormous changes he has made towards world peace and harmony and equally letting others know they will face consequences for their actions.

But let's jump to the 'illegal immigrants' - especially those that are productive and pay taxes.

YES - I think they should be granted full citizenship and flagged as outstanding citizens. And I think they should be broadcast over the networks to other countries with the message 'IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A BETTER LIFE - COME AND LIVE IN THE USA' - and our borders should remain wide open and we should do all things possible to foster dignity and respect.

THIS SHOULD SET THE TREND - THEN MEXICO AND ALL OTHER COUNTRIES WILL HAVE TO MAKE THE LIVES OF THEIR CITIZENS AS EQUALLY WONDERFUL - SO THEY DON'T WANT TO LEAVE.

So the central problem is not the 'illegal immigrants' wanting to come here - as they fully have the right to want a better life and should be granted all the freedoms our 'immigrant relatives' had. The central problem is the inferior conditions and lives they have to endure in the other countries - so the best way to stop the desire to come here is by enriching the quality of their lives where they are.

Therefore - I would recommend that each of us prepare to join them where they are and do all things possible to bring them happiness and fulfillment.

jimijr
04-25-2009, 11:43 PM
How 'bout one man, one vote, PLUS another vote for every $10,000 you paid in federal income taxes the preceding year. "The rich will control the vote!" you might say. But everybody knows, "The rich pay no taxes."

It isn't exactly buying votes or selling votes, is it.