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James48843
10-12-2007, 01:09 PM
Well, I'm sure G.W. will never make the finals....

ChemEng
10-12-2007, 01:21 PM
The PEACE Prize?

What is the relationship between Global Warming and Peace I wonder?

offtrack
10-12-2007, 01:55 PM
Here's a press release noting the reason for the award.

http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/2007/press.html

ChemEng
10-12-2007, 02:50 PM
...thereby to reduce the threat to the security of mankind.

:rolleyes:

I guess "reducing the threat to security" equates to importance in peace--somehow. I would have much rather them give him an honorary prize for his work than try to shoehorn it into something that doesnt exactly fit IMHO.

With all that said, Im going to threaten the security of a hamburger for lunch. However no peace award is required because there wont be any survivors. ;)

Birchtree
10-12-2007, 03:08 PM
Yellow Back Jimmy Carter got the same award - must be nepotism from the Liberal family.

VirginiaBob
10-12-2007, 03:48 PM
Not surprising considering they also gave it to Jimmy Carter, Kofi Anan, and Arafat. I think everyone knows thier agenda by now.

budnipper1
10-13-2007, 03:54 PM
The PEACE Prize?
What is the relationship between Global Warming and Peace I wonder?
Another "inconvenient truth": The founder and benefactor of the Nobel Peace Prize invented dynamite.
Could dynamite be causing GLOBAL WARMING???

Alfred Bernhard Nobel (http://nobelprize.org/alfred_nobel/timeline/index.html)was born in Stockholm, Sweden on 21 October 1833.
His interest in science, especially chemistry, appeared at an early age.
In due course he also acquired extensive literary and philosophical knowledge.
He did most of his studying on his own, never taking any college or university examination.

In 1867, Nobel obtained a patent on a special type of nitroglycerine, which he called "dynamite".
The original form of dynamite was gradually replaced by gelatin dynamite, which was safer to handle.

Nobel took a keen interest in social questions, and is known to have held radical views on many contemporary problems.
In January 1897 it was learned that he had left the bulk of his considerable estate to a fund, the interest on which was to be
awarded annually to the persons whose work had been of the greatest benefit to mankind.

The Nobel Prize amount for 2007 is set at Swedish kronor (SEK) 10 million per full Nobel Prize.
10,000,000 SEK = $1,555,805.00 USD / 2 = $777,902.50 = Algore's prize for blowing a lot of "HOT AIR". :mad:
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Wolverine
10-14-2007, 05:35 PM
This is what my man Joe has to say about it (caution graphic language)

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LOL

Is Joe having a bad hair day or did he just lose his entire evestment portfolio?

ChemEng
10-16-2007, 12:43 PM
One more thing to put this into perspective---Ghandi never received a Nobel Peace Prize in spite of being nominated 5 times. Now granted, he wasnt in a position to make a movie over his beliefs because he was living in poverty working on that whole liberating India from British rule thing. But it still shows a huge shift of where the award came from and where it is today.

khunk
10-23-2007, 01:29 PM
Al is a BIG Joke

budnipper1
11-30-2008, 08:47 AM
It took some digging, but I finally found the appropriate place to put this.:D

The killer frost for global warming (November 21, 2008)
Wesley Pruden - editor emeritus of The Washington Times
ANALYSIS/OPINION
Turn up the heat, somebody. The globe is freezing. Even Al Gore is looking for an extra blanket. Winter has barely come to the northern latitudes and already we've got bigger goosebumps than usual. So far the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) reports 63 record snowfalls in the United States, 115 lowest-ever temperatures for the month. Only 44 Octobers over the past 114 years have been cooler than this last one.

The polar ice is accumulating faster than usual, and some of the experts now concede that the globe hasn't warmed since 1995. You may have noticed, in fact, that Al and his pals, having given up on the sun, no longer even warn of global warming. Now it's "climate change." The marketing men enlisted by Al and the doom criers to come up with a flexible "brand" took a cue from the country philosopher who observed, correctly, that "if you've got one foot in the fire and the other in a bucket of ice, on average you're warm." On average, "climate change" covers every possibility.

This is similar to the science practiced by Dr. James Hansen at NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies, the source of much of the voodoo that Al Gore has been peddling since the doctor showed up at a Senate hearing in 1988 and told ghost stories that Al swallowed whole. Only last month Dr. Hansen's institute announced that October was the hottest on record, and then said "uh, never mind." The London Daily Telegraph calls this "a surreal blunder [that] raised a huge question mark about the temperature records that underpin the worldwide alarm over global warming.”

In this account, the institute had to make the humiliating climb-down after two leading skeptics of the global-warming scam, Anthony Watts, an American meteorologist, and Steve McIntyre, a Canadian computer analyst, discovered that temperature readings from September had been carried over and repeated for October.

We should sigh, shrug and give the scientists at NASA the benefit of the doubt that this was a mistake and not a deliberate howl at the moon. A spokesman for the institute explains that readings borrowed from Russia, which had been described as 10 degrees higher than normal for October, distorted the figures but, after all, the data had been obtained from others. So we should blame someone else.

This is the science we're expected to take on faith. The false figures - we must be generous and not say "faked" - were supplied by the United Nations International Panel on Climate Change. These are the most widely quoted readings, and consistently show higher temperatures than other "data sets." Would the United Nations lie? (No giggling, please.)

This sets a new standard for hubris, arrogance and haughty self-importance. Skeptics of the global-warming scam, even those with unquestioned academic and real-world credentials, are treated as ignorant pariahs by pundits, presidential candidates and other politicians who know better, or ought to.

This is not the first time, writes Christopher Booker in the Daily Telegraph, that Dr. Hansen's methodology has been sharply questioned. Two years ago, Messrs. Watts and McIntyre, the bloggers who caught the October fiasco, forced him to withdraw his published findings on surface temperatures in the United States, to correct his claim that the hottest decade of the 20th century was the 1990s. It was the 1930s, when the much-maligned sport utility vehicle was still a truck and Detroit made economical cars everybody wanted.

Man's notion that his science can realign the stars, adjust the orbit of planets and reorganize the universe leads him to say silly things and assert goofy claims. Saying silly things and asserting goofy claims is usually harmless as entertainment, so long as the claims are subjected to rigorous analysis and debate. But contrarian arguments about global warming, climate change and freezing heat are not tolerated by the scientists with an uneasy grip on the research money.

It's clear now that the earth has been cooling for the past decade, to the sorrow of the special pleaders and despite everything Al can do about it. The solar cycle peaked, the sun is quieter, the sunspots have faded and everybody but Al is cooling off.

Even the United Nations says so. The director of the U.N.'s panel on climate change concedes that nature has overwhelmed everything man can do and it might even be another decade before man can rally and the warming resumes. Until then, like it or not, nature rules the cosmos.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/nov/21/the-killer-frost-for-global-warming/

Show-me
11-30-2008, 12:31 PM
But global warming eventually causes global cooling or ice ages. Yes, no?

nnuut
11-30-2008, 12:42 PM
I think Gore and his Group are wrong and have been from the beginning of this bout of false science. There is just something about Old Al that I don't like, it's hard for me to put my finger on it, might be his voice? Whenever he speaks it's like someone scratching a Blackboard to me, I just can't stand it for some reason. Might be that sixth sense that we all have lingering in the background of our brains, the feeling of danger when there is nothing visible to base our fear on, but it's there. Might be the BullShit Alarm that lives right next to our sense of smell, because something just doesn't smell right about this guy?:cool: 5173

budnipper1
11-30-2008, 05:46 PM
But global warming eventually causes global cooling or ice ages. Yes, no?
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http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/ice_ages.html

My answer to Show-me's question is "maybe", but then it would probably be safe to say that the answer to the inverse of the question would also be "maybe", because cooling seems to also follow warming.

Al and his friends believe that "we" are the root problem of climate change. I DISAGREE! None of us were here during those peaks on the above chart that are separated by 1000's of years. Yet, the earth was warming and cooling then too, even without our interference.

Nnuut, I think your "bullshit detector" is working perfectly.:nuts:

budnipper1
12-09-2008, 04:29 AM
Two items in the news that give me "GAS"!

Obama, Gore to meet in Chicago

WASHINGTON (AP) — President-elect Barack Obama and Vice President-elect Joe Biden planned to meet privately with former Vice President Al Gore in Chicago Tuesday, Obama's transition office said.
In a statement, Obama spokesman Nick Shapiro said the three men would "discuss energy and climate change and how policies in this area can stimulate the economy and create jobs."
Democrats familiar with the meeting said it was not intended to be a discussion of whether Gore might take a position in the Obama administration.
Gore served two terms under President Clinton and ran for president in 2000. He lost to Republican George W. Bush in a disputed election that was settled by the U.S. Supreme Court.

Since then, Gore become a leader in the movement to draw attention to the issue of climate change and global warming. He won the Nobel Peace Prize for his work in 2007. His documentary film on climate change, "An Inconvenient Truth," won an academy award the same year.
Gore has also become very wealthy thanks to lucrative partnerships with Google and Apple.
The former vice president endorsed Obama in June, shortly after he clinched the nomination after a long primary battle with Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Obama has counted Gore as an adviser on climate change and has pledged to use part of his proposed economic stimulus package to develop alternative energies and "green" technologies aimed at creating jobs making the U.S. more energy efficient.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gmnaFOEfLjNPmCWEdB7bv9NuDDAwD94UOE500 (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gmnaFOEfLjNPmCWEdB7bv9NuDDAwD94UOE500)

EPA Proposes Fine On Smelly Cows, Hogs
Hopes Fine Will Decrease Greenhouse Gases

UPDATED: 8:59 am CST December 5, 2008

For farmers, this stinks: Belching and gaseous cows and hogs could start costing them money if a federal proposal to charge fees for air-polluting animals becomes law.

Farmers so far are turning their noses up at the notion, which is one of several put forward by the Environmental Protection Agency after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 2007 that greenhouse gases emitted by belching and flatulence amounts to air pollution. :rolleyes:
"This is one of the most ridiculous things the federal government has tried to do," said Alabama Agriculture Commissioner Ron Sparks, an outspoken opponent of the proposal.

It would require farms or ranches with more than 25 dairy cows, 50 beef cattle or 200 hogs to pay an annual fee of about $175 for each dairy cow, $87.50 per head of beef cattle and $20 for each hog.
http://www.wsmv.com/money/18210874/detail.html (http://www.wsmv.com/money/18210874/detail.html)
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Buster
12-09-2008, 02:15 PM
One word for Al Gore..HYPOCRITE:mad::mad:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/house.asp

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/gorehome.asp

nnuut
12-09-2008, 02:21 PM
Another word: DUFUS!:cool: 5216

budnipper1
12-11-2008, 03:52 AM
One word for Al Gore..HYPOCRITE:mad::mad:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/house.asp

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/gorehome.asp

Another word: DUFUS!:cool: 5216
Dear "DUFUS" AL GORE,
As I suspected, you are TOTALLY full of crap!
Please return that Nobel Peace Prize award money ASAP!:nuts:

UN Blowback: More Than 650 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims
December 10, 2008
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=2158072e-802a-23ad-45f0-274616db87e6

The link above originated from an article published today at: http://www.fedsmith.com/

The UN global warming conference currently underway in Poland is about to face a serious challenge from over 650 dissenting scientists from around the globe who are criticizing the climate claims made by the UN IPCC and former Vice President Al Gore.
Global Warming Disputed by 650 Scientists (http://www.fedsmith.com/headline/10073/)

“Many [scientists] are now searching for a way to back out quietly (from promoting warming fears), without having their professional careers ruined.” - Atmospheric physicist James A. Peden, formerly of the Space Research and Coordination Center in Pittsburgh.

“The [global warming] scaremongering has its justification in the fact that it is something that generates funds.” - Award-winning Paleontologist Dr. Eduardo Tonni, of the Committee for Scientific Research in Buenos Aires and head of the Paleontology Department at the University of La Plata.

By Geophysicist Dr. David Deming, associate professor of arts and sciences at the University of Oklahoma who has published numerous peer-reviewed research articles. Excerpt: Environmental extremists and global warming alarmists are in denial and running for cover. Their rationale for continuing a lost cause is that weather events in the short term are not necessarily related to long-term climatic trends. But these are the same people who screamed at us each year that ordinary weather events such as high temperatures or hurricanes were undeniable evidence of imminent doom. Now that global warming is over, politicians are finally ready to enact dubious solutions to a non-existent problem. […] To the extent global warming was ever valid, it is now officially over. It is time to file this theory in the dustbin of history, next to Aristotelean physics, Neptunism, the geocentric universe, phlogiston, and a plethora of other incorrect scientific theories, all of which had vocal and dogmatic supporters who cited incontrovertible evidence. Weather and climate change are natural processes beyond human control. To argue otherwise is to deny the factual evidence.

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/dec/10/global-warming-freeze/
Global warming freeze?
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nnuut
12-11-2008, 12:35 PM
Sad but true folks, Al Gore is full of it, or maybe he fell prey to the hype just like we did, but I don't think so. Just trying to FORSE "GLOBALIAM", one economy one government. But our friend Al really doesn't realize this, he's an innocent, a pawn, used to reach a goal.
I need a cup of coffee!:o HOT COFFEE!:laugh:

This guy knows what's happening!!!
“Creating an ideology pegged to carbon dioxide is a dangerous nonsense…The present alarm on climate change is an instrument of social control, a pretext for major businesses and political battle. It became an ideology, which is concerning.” - Environmental Scientist Professor Delgado Domingos of Portugal, the founder of the Numerical Weather Forecast group, has more than 150 published articles. http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=2158072e-802a-23ad-45f0-274616db87e6

Dr Faustus
12-11-2008, 12:43 PM
It would require farms or ranches with more than 25 dairy cows, 50 beef cattle or 200 hogs to pay an annual fee of about $175 for each dairy cow, $87.50 per head of beef cattle and $20 for each hog.
http://www.wsmv.com/money/18210874/detail.html (http://www.wsmv.com/money/18210874/detail.html)
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Of course, your farmer isn't going to pay that. That cost is going to be born by the final consumer of meat products.

Dr Faustus
12-11-2008, 12:44 PM
This guy knows what's happening!!!
“Creating an ideology pegged to carbon dioxide is a dangerous nonsense…The present alarm on climate change is an instrument of social control, a pretext for major businesses and political battle. It became an ideology, which is concerning.” - Environmental Scientist Professor Delgado Domingos of Portugal, the founder of the Numerical Weather Forecast group, has more than 150 published articles. http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=2158072e-802a-23ad-45f0-274616db87e6

Essentially the point of Michael Crichton's book "State of Fear."

CountryBoy
12-11-2008, 02:30 PM
Algore is just running a big con game. Hostroy shows these warming and cooling periods. I was old enough to remember this same group of "scientist" calling for the next ice age in the 70's. It's noting but a big scambola.

CB

Buster
12-11-2008, 02:41 PM
Say what you want about Algore (Rush Limbaugh, 1992:D), But he invented the Internet, you know:rolleyes:

nnuut
12-11-2008, 02:56 PM
say what you want about algore (rush limbaugh, 1992:d), but he invented the internet, you know:rolleyes:
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budnipper1
12-13-2008, 02:56 AM
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President-elect Barack Obama has selected his top energy and environmental advisers, including a Nobel Prize-winning physicist and the former head of the Environmental Protection Agency, presidential transition officials said Wednesday.

Collectively, they will have the task of carrying out Mr. Obama’s stated intent to curb global warming emissions drastically while fashioning a more efficient national energy system. And they will be able to work with strong allies in Congress who are interested in developing climate-change legislation, despite fierce economic headwinds that will amplify objections from manufacturers and energy producers.

The officials said Mr. Obama would name Steven Chu, the director of the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, as his energy secretary, and Nancy Sutley, deputy mayor of Los Angeles for energy and environment, as head of the White House Council on Environmental Quality. Mr. Obama also appears ready to name Carol M. Browner, the E.P.A. administrator under President Bill Clinton, as the top White House official on climate and energy policy and Lisa P. Jackson, who until recently was New Jersey’s commissioner of environmental protection, as the head of the E.P.A.

If named to the White House climate post, Ms. Browner, an *acolyte of former Vice President Al Gore, will have forceful support in the new Congress, including Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Representative Henry A. Waxman of California, who will be the new chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, and Senator Barbara Boxer of California, who is returning as chairwoman of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee. Opposing their efforts will be many Republicans and some Democrats, as well as manufacturers, utilities, oil companies and coal producers who will bear the brunt of the costs of any steps to reduce carbon dioxide emissions, the main culprit in global warming. (Bull$hit!):rolleyes:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/11/us/politics/11appoint.html?th&emc=th (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/11/us/politics/11appoint.html?th&emc=th)

*Acolyte can mean any of the following:
Acolyte - a rank in the clergy.
Acolyte - any devoted follower or attendant.
Acolyte, Inc. - an Indonesian manga publisher.
Acolyte Protection Agency - a wrestling (WWE) tag team.
Acolytes (comics) - a Marvel Comics team of mutant supervillains
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acolyte_(disambiguation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acolyte_(disambiguation)

budnipper1
01-28-2009, 07:53 PM
More hot air from algore...:mad:

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http://www.newschannel5.com/global/story.asp?s=9746699&ClientType=Printable

Viva La Migra
01-28-2009, 10:54 PM
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Collectively, they will have the task of carrying out Mr. Obama’s stated intent to curb global warming emissions drastically while fashioning a more efficient national energy system. And they will be able to work with strong allies in Congress who are interested in developing climate-change legislation, despite fierce economic headwinds that will amplify objections from manufacturers and energy producers.

The officials said Mr. Obama would name Steven Chu, the director of the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, as his energy secretary, and Nancy Sutley, deputy mayor of Los Angeles for energy and environment, as head of the White House Council on Environmental Quality. Mr. Obama also appears ready to name Carol M. Browner, the E.P.A. administrator under President Bill Clinton, as the top White House official on climate and energy policy and Lisa P. Jackson, who until recently was New Jersey’s commissioner of environmental protection, as the head of the E.P.A.

If named to the White House climate post, Ms. Browner, an *acolyte of former Vice President Al Gore, will have forceful support in the new Congress, including Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Representative Henry A. Waxman of California, who will be the new chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, and Senator Barbara Boxer of California, who is returning as chairwoman of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee. Opposing their efforts will be many Republicans and some Democrats, as well as manufacturers, utilities, oil companies and coal producers who will bear the brunt of the costs of any steps to reduce carbon dioxide emissions, the main culprit in global warming. (Bull$hit!):rolleyes:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/11/us/politics/11appoint.html?th&emc=th (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/11/us/politics/11appoint.html?th&emc=th)

We are headed for a liberal civil war, folks. It's Algore and the religion of environmentalism versus People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals! Carbon footprints and gaseous bovines! The creator of the Internet meets the Baywatch Beauty! Will cows be allowed to continue to pollute the planet with their noxious emissions? Will breast implants be declared environmental waste? Will Algore buy more carbon credits so he can blow more hot air? Stay tuned and find out!

budnipper1
01-28-2009, 11:45 PM
We are headed for a liberal civil war, folks. It's Algore and the religion of environmentalism versus People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals! Carbon footprints and gaseous bovines! The creator of the Internet meets the Baywatch Beauty! Will cows be allowed to continue to pollute the planet with their noxious emissions? Will breast implants be declared environmental waste? Will Algore buy more carbon credits so he can blow more hot air? Stay tuned and find out!
AMEN. :notrust:
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KevinD
01-31-2009, 02:12 AM
By John Coleman

The key players are now all in place in Washington and in state governments across America to officially label carbon dioxide as a pollutant and enact laws that tax we citizens for our carbon footprints.

Only two details stand in the way, the faltering economic times and a dramatic turn toward a colder climate. The last two bitter winters have led tthe public to be skeptical that any runaway global warning. There is now awareness that there may be reason to question whether CO2 is a pollutant and a significant greenhouse gas.

How did we ever get to this point where bad science is driving big government? And how will we ever stop it?

The story begins with an Oceanographer named Roger Revelle. He served with the Navy in World War II. After the war he became the Director of the Scripps Oceanographic Institute in La Jolla in San Diego, California. Revelle saw the opportunity to obtain major funding from the Navy for doing measurements and research on the ocean around the Pacific Atolls where the US military was conducting atomic bomb tests. He greatly expanded the Institute's areas of interest and among others hired Hans Suess, a noted Chemist from the University of Chicago, who was very interested in the traces of carbon in the environment from the burning of fossil fuels. Revelle tagged on to Suess studies and co-authored a paper with him in 1957. The paper raises the possibility that the carbon dioxide might be creating a greenhouse effect and causing atmospheric warming. It seems to be a plea for funding for more studies. Funding, frankly, is where Revelle's mind was most of the time.

Next Revelle hired a Geochemist named David Keeling to devise a way to measure the atmospheric content of Carbon dioxide. In 1960 Keeling published his first paper showing the increase in carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and linking the increase to the burning of fossil fuels.

These two research papers became the bedrock of the science of global warming, even though they offered no proof that carbon dioxide was in fact a greenhouse gas. In addition they failed to explain how this trace gas, only a tiny fraction of the atmosphere, could have any significant impact on temperatures.

http://www.kusi.com/weather/colemanscorner/38574742.html

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budnipper1
01-31-2009, 04:35 AM
... http://www.kusi.com/weather/colemans.../38574742.html (http://www.kusi.com/weather/colemanscorner/38574742.html)
Another good reference to the Global Warming Scam. Thanks KevinD.

From your link, I found Coleman's official statement to the 2008
International Conference of Climate Change, a 12 page report.
http://media.kusi.com/documents/REMARKS+OF+JOHN+COLEMAN+FINAL6c.pdf (http://media.kusi.com/documents/REMARKS+OF+JOHN+COLEMAN+FINAL6c.pdf)

I'll never understand why so many have bought this bogus
junk science, hook, line and sinker. If they would only stop
and try thinking it through for themselves, it would become
obvious that mankind's effect on climate change has been
insignificant. The slight variations, both ups and downs, of the
earth's average temperatures are natural climatic cycles.

This has been happening for thousands of years, long before cars
or factories existed. It is nature... it is the "weather"!
We can't change it. We can't control it.
We can merely live with it! We are but a speck in the universe.
http://environmentalchemistry.com/yogi/environmental/200611CO2globalwarming.html

Thunderhorse
02-06-2009, 12:25 AM
Bored and frozen in FL.

Anyone remember the Global Cooling Panic in the early 1970's?

Weather and stock markets. I wonder if anyone has researched possible correlations between the two.

Where's my acorn?



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signed,
the saber toothed squirrel:)

Viva La Migra
02-11-2009, 05:28 PM
Where's my acorn?

ACORN is in Washington, DC getting it's payback for helping the administration get elected!:sick:

budnipper1
03-27-2009, 07:09 PM
Global Warming: Gone, but we will be taxed anyway
March 23

Global Warming just isn’t happening anymore. The warming trend stopped in 2000, but that hasn’t stopped Al Gore and the 52 Scientists from the IPCC (United Nations) to continue to alarm the public. In 2009 we heard Al Gore reverse his claim of global warming to a message of “climate change.”

There has been a history of his type of terrorism, on the very first “Earth Day,” April 22, 1970; Senator Gaylord Nelson of Wisconsin claimed that the world was cooling. After a period of time it was found that we were actually warming, now that the trend has reversed the global warming alarmists argument no longer holds water.

The war cry of Al Gores group said that CO2 was tied hand in hand with warming. CO2 now continues to rise even though there is a trend for cooling. Many items from Al Gore’s film “An Inconvenient Truth” have been discredited, and yet the policies continue as if everything he said was the gospel truth. The main point of the film had to do with the “hockey stick theory,” which was later found out to eliminate crucial data to bolster Mann’s study. Once the main theory was discredited as well as biased computer models, the credibility should have gone down the drain, but as of today it hasn’t.

President Obama supports Al Gore’s scientifically lacking theories, even though 31,000 scientists now refute all the findings of the 52 member politically driven IPCC reports. Because of the teaching nature of most scientists, they were silent for a long time; for fear of losing their government or collegiate funding, if they spoke what they felt was the truth. Increasing anger among the scientific community has caused them to now go on record to expose the truth about a political answer to scientific question.

Science has never been a closed door as Gore referred to as a “consensus.” Science is always evolving, and as new research methods come to light, as well as data (as is now), theories can change. To refuse this goes in the face of all scientific endeavors.

I have detailed an article (http://alspoliticalview.blogspot.com/2008/03/how-does-one-explain-al-gores-movie.html) about Al Gore, his accomplices, and the trouble with his movie.

This wouldn’t be a problem if it was merely a talking point, but it is not. This alarming terrorist plot has grown legs as yet another tax disguised as an issue. The cap and trade is just another tax to corporations to pass along to end users.

We need to let our representatives know how we feel, more taxes are not what we need now in our time of economic need. Especially on hair-brained, half baked, half wrong theories.

http://www.examiner.com/x-3678-Baltimore-Conservative-Examiner~y2009m3d23-Global-Warming-Gone-but-we-will-be-taxed-anyway

31,478 scientists who disagree with Gore
http://www.petitionproject.org/signers_by_last_name.php

Al Gore quote:
“If something never happened before, we’re usually safe in assuming it’s not gonna happen in the future,” he said. “Usually, that rule works, but it’s the exceptions that can kill you. This is one of the exceptions.”
http://www.timesnews.net/article.php?id=9012740
Gore implores ETSU audience to help battle global warming
March 26th, 2009

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/johncoleman.asp

PessOptimist
03-29-2009, 01:58 AM
Whenever I have a minor disagreement with either of my left of me children, I tell them "it's an inconvenient truth". They roll their eyes but also are intelligent enough to know bs when they see it.

As it turns out, ol right wing dad is more green than they are.

So, chill out, Gore is just another huckster looking to scare people in to buying carbon credits from Generation Investment Management LLP. Incidentally he owns that company. Coincedence? I think not. Until algore is ready to downsize to one 2000 sq ft house and install solar panels and maybe a wind turbine instead of having several houses with limos and SUVs idling outside 24/7 I am not ready to comply.

I believe that we do need to look in to alternative energy sources and try to limit the amount of CO and CO2 we emit. However, the solution will not come overnight and we need interim answers.

Common sense is perhaps the answer. Never mind, that would mean independent thinking, not allowed any more.

Buster
03-29-2009, 03:38 AM
Whenever I have a minor disagreement with either of my left of me children, I tell them "it's an inconvenient truth". They roll their eyes but also are intelligent enough to know bs when they see it.

As it turns out, ol right wing dad is more green than they are.

So, chill out, Gore is just another huckster looking to scare people in to buying carbon credits from Generation Investment Management LLP. Incidentally he owns that company. Coincedence? I think not. Until algore is ready to downsize to one 2000 sq ft house and install solar panels and maybe a wind turbine instead of having several houses with limos and SUVs idling outside 24/7 I am not ready to comply.
.One word for Algore:..HYPOCRITE!

Bullitt
03-29-2009, 10:25 PM
It's amazing. We've got the biggest crisis on our hands since the 30's and our leaders are more concerned about placing taxes on those who do not properly cap their emissions.

PessOptimist
03-30-2009, 03:34 AM
2 thoughts before I retire to get ready for my first day at work in 3 weeks:

isn't there CO2 in beer? will they outlaw beer?

how about carbonated soft drinks?

soon no more milk or steaks - unless PETA wins

breast implants - too tired, goin to bed now (good thing eh?)

budnipper1
03-30-2009, 06:54 AM
- Friday, March 27, 2009
A United Nations document on "climate change" that will be distributed to a major environmental conclave next week envisions a huge reordering of the world economy, likely involving trillions of dollars in wealth transfer, millions of job losses and gains, new taxes, industrial relocations, new tariffs and subsidies, and complicated payments for greenhouse gas abatement schemes and carbon taxes — all under the supervision of the world body.

Those and other results are blandly discussed in a discretely worded United Nations "information note" on potential consequences of the measures that industrialized countries will likely have to take to implement the Copenhagen Accord, the successor to the Kyoto Treaty, after it is negotiated and signed by December 2009. The Obama administration has said it supports the treaty process if, in the words of a U.S. State Department spokesman, it can come up with an "effective framework" for dealing with global warming.
Foxnews article-
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,510937,00.html

hessian
03-31-2009, 12:01 AM
- Friday, March 27, 2009
A United Nations document on "climate change" that will be distributed to a major environmental conclave next week envisions a huge reordering of the world economy, likely involving trillions of dollars in wealth transfer, millions of job losses and gains, new taxes, industrial relocations, new tariffs and subsidies, and complicated payments for greenhouse gas abatement schemes and carbon taxes — all under the supervision of the world body.

Those and other results are blandly discussed in a discretely worded United Nations "information note" on potential consequences of the measures that industrialized countries will likely have to take to implement the Copenhagen Accord, the successor to the Kyoto Treaty, after it is negotiated and signed by December 2009. The Obama administration has said it supports the treaty process if, in the words of a U.S. State Department spokesman, it can come up with an "effective framework" for dealing with global warming.
Foxnews article-
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,510937,00.html


A sad day for the Nobel Peace Prize, and a true insult to all previous Prize winners.

budnipper1
03-31-2009, 02:33 AM
A sad day for the Nobel Peace Prize, and a true insult to all previous Prize winners.
Exactly! That award used to mean something, but after Gore got it, all respect I had for it went right down the crapper.

mojo
03-31-2009, 04:00 PM
Exactly! That award used to mean something, but after Gore got it, all respect I had for it went right down the crapper.


What about when Arafat won it? It means nothing except an award for the corrupt now.

budnipper1
03-31-2009, 07:44 PM
What about when Arafat won it? It means nothing except an award for the corrupt now.

After some light research on the Nobel prize, I basically learned how ignorant I have been about it's relative importance. I had based my thoughts about the merits of the Nobel prize on news articles I've read over the years about people receiving this award. Then, concluding that the recipients must have done something exceptionally great to deserve such recognition. I never really thought about the award's process or who actually hands out these awards. It is probable that I was asleep or daydreaming in class when and if they taught anything about the origins of the Nobel Prize.

Although the "Nobel Peace Prize" is only one of several different categories of the Nobel prize, it is awarded by a committee of five people elected by the Norwegian Storting (http://nobelprize.org/alfred_nobel/will/short_testamente.html). This procedure was created and directed in Alfred Nobel's will.

"The Norwegian Nobel Committee is responsible for the selection of eligible candidates and the choice of the Nobel Peace Prize Laureates. The Committee is composed of five members appointed by the Storting (Norwegian parliament). The Nobel Peace Prize is awarded in Oslo, Norway, not in Stockholm, Sweden, where the Nobel Prizes in Physics, Chemistry, Physiology or Medicine, Literature and the Economics Prize are awarded."
http://nobelprize.org/nomination/peace/process.html (http://nobelprize.org/nomination/peace/process.html) The statutes of the Nobel Foundation restrict disclosure of information about the nominations, whether publicly or privately, for 50 years. The restriction concerns the nominees and nominators, as well as investigations and opinions related to the award of a prize.

The problem of the inventor's and scientist's social responsibility was taken up by Albert Einstein (http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/1921/index.html) in a speech in 1945, after the atom bombs were dropped over Japan in August of that year. Einstein pointed out that the physicists in 1945 were in a situation which much resembled that in which Alfred Nobel once found himself. Einstein drew his conclusion from this: "Alfred Nobel invented an explosive more powerful than any then known -- an exceedingly effective means of destruction. To atone for this 'accomplishment' and to relieve his conscience, he instituted his award for the promotion of peace."
http://nobelprize.org/alfred_nobel/biographical/articles/tagil/index.html (http://nobelprize.org/alfred_nobel/biographical/articles/tagil/index.html)

I can't see how Al Gore has done much of anything to promote peace, or even to aid in the "fraternity between nations". He should have worked harder on his fraternal relationship with the people in his own state before he considered helping "nations". As for the abolishment or reduction of standing armies or for holding and promoting peace congresses, maybe I could strain to believe he did a little something in that area, if giving lectures about the evils of global warming fits into the category of "peace congresses". I don't think so, but the Swedes... or Norwegians... or whoever they are, gave him a prize for something he did anyway. I'm sure he proudly displays it somewhere in one of his huge mansion-like houses (http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/gorehome.asp).
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CountryBoy
03-31-2009, 07:49 PM
We need to ask those folks in the midwest and the Dakotas about man made global warming. :rolleyes:

Buster
03-31-2009, 11:54 PM
Good find Bud...But I'm still trying to figure out how Algore qualifies for the NPP, whining along with all the other tree-huggers about Global warming and not mentioning a thing about his carbon footprint http://www.hummeraddicts.com/Smileys/Lots_O_Smileys/icon_scratch.gif

budnipper1
04-01-2009, 12:37 AM
Good find Bud...But I'm still trying to figure out how Algore qualifies for the NPP, whining along with all the other tree-huggers about Global warming and not mentioning a thing about his carbon footprint http://www.hummeraddicts.com/Smileys/Lots_O_Smileys/icon_scratch.gif
The qualifications and reasons will be revealed in 50 years when they unlock that safe that hides the secret details about the merits of the nominees. Algore and his cronies preach that we should do as they say, NOT do as they do. The elite are "special" and therefore exempt from responsibility.:mad:

Too bad Madoff wasn't around back then to help with Alfred Nobel's capital investments. There wouldn't have been any prize money left to give algore.:D

Buster
04-01-2009, 03:22 AM
I've Got it!!

I got why Algore won the NPP....HE Invented The "INTERNET"..

geeezzz, why didn't I see this sooner?..:rolleyes: