Feb 22 - March1

Could this be it? There is a 1% decline in the dollar this morning that should benefit the I fund. The dollar is crossing below the 50 day MA. If it holds, this could be the beginning of the next wave down for the dollar.

South Korea, Bahrain and Russia said they were going to dump "diversify" out of U.S. treasuries. I believe Germany and France will soon follow suit. I strongly feel that the I fund will not do to well since Japan and England (two largest holdings in the I fund) will suffer because they will losegreatly on their U.S. treasury holdings. Japan holds 719B in U.S. debt and UK has 219B. With the currency exchange lose that can not be helpful to them. Overnight the foreign stock markets are down across the board. The FOMC minutes can continue that trend. It is shaping up to be a week that one would want to be out of the way.

The U.S. futures look like the club scene in the movie Blade...blood dripping from the ceiling.

Should world markets be down today, the dollar play should still help to cushion the blow.

LONDON - European markets extended losses Tuesday from the start of the week, hit by a weakening U.S. dollar.

Tokyo falls; Asian markets down



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Darn this does not do charts.

FYI, Asian markets compose about a quarter of the I fund.

http://www.tsptalk.com/images/countries.gif

That was why I gave you data on the UK. Add those up and you are looking at nearly 50%. France and Germany are getting spanked also.

Crude is nearly that $50 mark (germany joke) again.

The German DAX Xetra 30 index fell 0.7 percent.

French CAC 40 index slipped 0.6 percent.

The top two holdings of the I fund are dogs. Seems like they should balance them out more. The small percentage holdings are the best markets. Hey, no Latin America, what about our friends from the South???

Will look to pop in there on Thursday and bail on Friday.

Sometimes ya got to be like Kenny, "Know when to hold em, know when to fold em."

Futures Dow is -70 QQQs -20 500 -15.

What a way to start the week off?

Off to diner. Logging out.

Today seems to be runningas anticipatedearlier.... Namely,

The C fund is down .2% today

The S fund is down .7% today

The I fund is up .4% today with the dollar up 1%.

Without the dollar's assistance, the I would likely be down about .4%....


So far, the S fund seems to be holding above the 50 day MA. Bounced off it today...

You MAY find after the U.S. has a big drop, the internationals sell off the next day.

S fund does not like rising interest rates and inflation. It will more then likely be the worst fund for 2005.

Only time will tell.

saraho wrote: The I fund is up .4% today with the dollar up 1%.


Don't you mean the dollar is Down1%?

saraho wrote:
Without the dollar's assistance, the I would likely be down about .4%....





Please explain that statement.

greg wrote: saraho wrote: The I fund is up .4% today with the dollar up 1%.


Don't you mean the dollar is Down1%?

Please explain that statement.




You're correct. I meant to say that the I fund was up an additional 1% as a result of the dollar's decline.

The I-fund went up only8 cents since Friday; that 0.45%. I know I shouldn't complain considering what the other funds did today. What do people think about it for tomorrow or therest of the week?

Dr_Dubious wrote: You MAY find after the U.S. has a big drop, the internationals sell off the next day.

S fund does not like rising interest rates and inflation. It will more then likely be the worst fund for 2005.

Only time will tell.


I agree with you Dr., for the first time I think, <:o) I fund will drop big time either Wed. or Thurs. Just my opinion of course. I HATE THE I FUND..........I'm sure the I fund being up today was another "correction" by TSP.

[Wheels]

Did anyone notice that the Wilshire 4500 lost about 2.24% today but the S fund only lost about 1.66%. I know we've gotten used to these kinds of flucuations in the I fund price but the C fund price and the S fund price used to be very accurate reflections of theS&P 500and the Wilshire 4500 respectively. This is a fairly large discrepancy.

Any ideas?

Dave

[tsptalk]

Wheels wrote: Did anyone notice that the Wilshire 4500 lost about 2.24% today but the S fund only lost about 1.66%.
I see a 1.66% loss in the S fund and 1.64% on the W4500 (-8.03/489.94)

The C-fund ended today at 12.65 and the S-fund ended at 14.23. They haven't been that low since January 31st. All of the gains made by these funds in February have now been erased. This stock-market-investing-for-retirement is starting to feel like gambling (which is something that I never do with my non-TSP money).

[tsptalk]

greg wrote: This stock-market-investing-for-retirement is starting to feel like gambling (which is something that I never do with my non-TSP money).

That's why they made the G fund.

No risk = guaranteed small gain.
Somerisk = small to medium gain or loss.
Big risk = big gain or big loss.

The long term trend of the market is up and will get you a higher return than the G fund... in the long term. Guess which waythe wealthy invest? ;)

[Wheels]

I see a 1.66% loss in the S fund and 1.64% on the W4500 (-8.03/489.94)
I show the Wilshire 4500 down 11.07 to 484.62.

[tsptalk]

Wheels wrote: I see a 1.66% loss in the S fund and 1.64% on the W4500 (-8.03/489.94)
I show the Wilshire 4500 down 11.07 to 484.62.

Hmmm. Do you have a link to that quote?

I'm looking at Yahoo! .... http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=%5EDWCPF

[Wheels]

I always monitor the Wilshire 4500 from Wilshire's home page at http://www.wilshire.com/but I also typed in DWCP into the enter symbol box to double check it.

greg wrote: The C-fund ended today at 12.65 and the S-fund ended at 14.23. They haven't been that low since January 31st. All of the gains made by these funds in February have now been erased. This stock-market-investing-for-retirement is starting to feel like gambling (which is something that I never do with my non-TSP money).

The C and S funds were higher on December 1st 2004 than they are now. :X

Dr_Dubious wrote: You MAY find after the U.S. has a big drop, the internationals sell off the next day.

S fund does not like rising interest rates and inflation. It will more then likely be the worst fund for 2005.

Only time will tell.



Nikkei down over 1% at midday

I am guessing our European friends will fare no better.

greg wrote: The I-fund went up only8 cents since Friday; that 0.45%. I know I shouldn't complain considering what the other funds did today. What do people think about it for tomorrow or therest of the week?
You MAY find after the U.S. has a big drop, the internationals sell off the next day.

I am looking for a snatch and grab Thursday-Friday. However, do not want to get caught in an avalanche either. All depends on FOMC minutes.

Even after the big drop, for some reason I have no interest to take the chance.

tsptorture wrote:
I agree with you Dr., for the first time I think, <:o) I fund will drop big time either Wed. or Thurs. Just my opinion of course. I HATE THE I FUND..........I'm sure the I fund being up today was another "correction" by TSP.
Why doesn't the I fund have representation from Latin America??? They have some quickly growing economies down there. At least a small part of China would be nice.

Be so heavily weighted in Japan, UK, Germany and France we are leaving a lot of money on the table. The fund would be up greatly if we could of least have SOME Latin American exposure. That is why I hate the fund. Only the very small, small holdings are the ones providing the return to us.

tsptalk wrote:
That's why they made the G fund.

No risk = guaranteed small gain.
Somerisk = small to medium gain or loss.
Big risk = big gain or big loss.

The long term trend of the market is up and will get you a higher return than the G fund... in the long term. Guess which waythe wealthy invest? ;)

Problemwith G fund is you do not keep with with inflation and the erosion of the U.S. dollar. So if you have $1,000 in there after a year the buying power on the $1,000 is closer to $888. If you put your money and there month after month, year after year. You may have saved $250K in 20 years. However, what is $250K going to buy you in 2025? That is the risk. What is the buying power of you money in the future??? 30 years ago if you had $200K you were a very well off person. Now if you have $200K you are doing all right. It is all realitive and that is the risk.

That will also be the problem with private accounts. With no COLA index and if the market takes a giant hit. Like a one day drop of 30% that could hurt a lot of folks. The drop today is nothing. I remember back in 2001 when the NASDAQ fell250 pluspoints two days in a row. That is some real pain. How would you feel the NASDAQ was down 250 tomorrow and all you retirement was in one place?

[SystemTrader]

Here's my take on "hating" the I Fund or any of the funds, for that matter.Many wise investors/traders have told us to never fall in love with a stock. This means if a stock starts tanking, you shouldsellit based onsome rational method (e.g., a stop loss) instead of holdingit because you like the company/feelit will make a big comeback/work it its industry, etc.

In the same way, you should allocate among the funds without any bias, IMHO. Whetherthe fundowns more stocks in France or Paraguay is irrelevent...the price trendof the fund is its best indicator and will tell you the most important info.Even if it seems counterintuitive...

My $0.02.

Bush Warns Europe on Ending China Embargo

Bush warned Congress might retaliate if Europe revokes the 15-year ban.

Question: Why are we telling everyone what to do now? How would you feel if you were on the other end and being lectured on what you can and can not do? It would get old, I would think. Especially if I am holding all your worthless dollars.

You will see more central banks dumping their U.S. debt holdings.

All Empires fall. Social security reform will not be all that important if we are invaded. Iran, Russia, Syria and China are lining up on one side - it appears Europe is about to switch sides. The cold war has nothing on that crew.

SystemTrader wrote: Here's my take on "hating" the I Fund or any of the funds, for that matter.Many wise investors/traders have told us to never fall in love with a stock. This means if a stock starts tanking, you shouldsellit based onsome rational method (e.g., a stop loss) instead of holdingit because you like the company/feelit will make a big comeback/work it its industry, etc.

In the same way, you should allocate among the funds without any bias, IMHO. Whetherthe fundowns more stocks in France or Paraguay is irrelevent...the price trendof the fund is its best indicator and will tell you the most important info.Even if it seems counterintuitive...

My $0.02.



It is not about the love. It is about it is NOT a international fund. No Latin American, no China, no Taiwan, etc, etc, To be an international fund it should have representation from all major markets and not heavily weighted in our two friends Japan and the UK.

Interesting enough Japan and UK are the two major holders of U.S. debt. Scratch your parts, I scratch yours?

We all know Japan and UK are going no where fast. That is why I do not like the I fund. The performance will all ways be dragged down by those two dogs.

[Spaf]

SystemTrader wrote: Never fall in love with a stock.
The price trendof the fund is its best indicator and will tell you the most important info.

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Spaf wrote: SystemTrader wrote: Never fall in love with a stock.
The price trendof the fund is its best indicator and will tell you the most important info.

http://www.smileys.ws/sm/action/00000033.gifDid you read my post after his? It is not about love, it is about a fund that is advertised as an international index fund that isNOT an internationalindex fund. To be an index you would have representation from all major international markets. Not a select few and WHO picks the select few??? Oh Barclays's a UK company. Interesting UK is the second largest holding and UK is in no way shape orform the second largest international market. Interesting. Once again it is not hating it for the "stock" it is hating it for false appearances.

[SystemTrader]

Did you read my post after his? It is not about love, it is about a fund that is advertised as an international index fund that isNOT an internationalindex fund. To be an index you would have representation from all major international markets. Not a select few and WHO picks the select few??? Oh Barclays's a UK company. Interesting UK is the second largest holding and UK is in no way shape orform the second largest international market. Interesting. Once again it is not hating it for the "stock" it is hating it for false appearances.
Dr.,

We could alsotalkabout the very high valuations of U.S. stocksthat comprise the S and C funds. Historically, U.S. stocks' P/E ratios (and other valuations) are way out of line. You've talked about problems of the G fund and almost everyone has slammed the F fund. But in the end you have to choose among these 5 funds. And none of them are perfect.

My point is that using some type ofobjective indicator(s) is the best way to evaluate the funds. I'm not here to defend Barclays, the U.K., Japan or what a true international fund should look like...

Peace,

John

[Spaf]

I understand what you are saying. However, this is TSP, our choices are quite limited in this program. I can sellect a ETF that is really running hot, or go into a hot sector fund. Maybe the I-fund is not the best, it's all we got for this program if you want to go international. TSP has very limited options. Vanguard Energy Vipers are up 15% this year, sorry not one of the TSP options.

ST was just saying don't fall in love with funds. They are just inventory instruments. What's hot today is cold tommorrow, just like clothes and cars.

Rgds ;) Spaf

[Wheels]

It is not about love, it is about a fund that is advertised as an international index fund that isNOT an internationalindex fund. To be an index you would have representation from all major international markets.
TSP decided to name it the I fund or International fund, but it's never been "advertised" as anything but what it is, an ETF based on Barclay's EAFE. That's Europe, Asia, and Far East. I too would love it if South America were in there somewhere but based on my globe, it ain't gonna happen.

Dave

On the TSP site it says:

I Fund: International Stock Index Investment Fund.

That is false advertisement to me.

Yes, deeper down you read it is only Europe, Asia and Far East, however where is Taiwan, China, Thailand, Indoensia, Malyasia, Philipines etc, etc - those economies are actually GROWING.

Sorry to cause a stir. This is a sore spot to me. The I fund would be doing SO MUCH better. You just do not understand the money we are leaving on the table with this "International Stock INDEX Investment Fund." It is crap.

[Spaf]

Dr_Dubious wrote: You just do not understand the money we are leaving on the table.
Precisely!!!!!!!!!

Option: Don't invest extras over 5% in TSP. Go to a broker (place) and invest them in more profitable stock. Be informed. Move the allocations to your best advantage. Manage your own funds.
Stay tuned with TSP Talk for controling the TSP funds to your best advantage until you can retire.
Don't go to Buy-and-hold investments, they hurt their investors in 2000. Go to a place where you can transfer funds to safe haven if needed. Be informed about the market, fundamentals, technical analysis, and other investment matters. It's your money!

And TSP didn't do this for how many million participants!

Sorry Dr_D. TSP hits a raw nerve at times. Rgds :( Spaf

Thank you for the reply, Spaf. However, it is best to max out your TSP to the fullest for the decrease in taxable income. The sore spot is the false and errouneous advertisement of a index product to us stupid sheep. It is to concentrated and it is not a EAFE representation. It is a shame.

Once again, I did not mean to vent. However, how can you invest in this when you know the heavily weighted countries suck, the fast growers are a small percentage and the true track burners are not even allowed to toe up?

[Spaf]

Dr_Dubious wrote: Thank you for the reply, Spaf. However, it is best to max out your TSP to the fullest for the decrease in taxable income.


Decrease in taxable income?

Sorry Dr_D but the increases from taxable income can off set the other, if done right and informed. Thats the BIG "IF". Investments that pay 20% a year can be a blessing, if you know what to do. Thats the key point. Investing requires skill and knowledge!

If people are tasked to maintain investment accounts, they should have the skill and knowledge to manage their accounts.

Take a look at the TSP site, and see how money is invested! Damn shame!

Rgds :? Spaf

Your contribution into your TSP accounts lowers your adjusted taxable income amount for tax purposes. That is the best place to max out first. Does that make sense?

Nikkei down 105

HNGSNG down 146

Australia down 35

Singapore down 20

Asia avg down about .96%

Euros down across the board so far, avg down about .65%.

U.S. futures:

500 - up .75

QQQQs - down 2

I can safely say, I HAVE NO IDEA what to do.

Stand pat, I guess. All eyes on 8:30am.

[Spaf]

Dr_Dubious wrote: Your contribution into your TSP accounts lowers your adjusted taxable income amount for tax purposes. That is the best place to max out first. Does that make sense?
Yes for tax purposes. And the max is ______? But no it does not make sense if you can off set it by better investments!

It seems to me that we are argueing a fine line!

Two people see a different image while millions suffer.

LETS CHANGE IT!

An ALLIANCE! We work for the better of government investors. Disagree ok! But the big picture is the better investment for TSP participants.

tsptalk wrote: Guess which waythe wealthy invest? ;)
Ummm...don't tell me.. tax-free munis? *LOL*

[tsptalk]

saraho wrote: tsptalk wrote: Guess which waythe wealthy invest? ;)
Ummm...don't tell me.. tax-free munis? *LOL*

No, it's actually namor's Vegas investments. :D

[tsptalk]

Dr_Dubious wrote: You MAY find after the U.S. has a big drop, the internationals sell off the next day.

I agree. We experimentedwith that conceptlast year. Sometimes it worked, but sometimes it didn't.... http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/forum6/2.html (http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/forum6/2.html)

tsptalk wrote: Dr_Dubious wrote: You MAY find after the U.S. has a big drop, the internationals sell off the next day.

I agree. We experimentedwith that conceptlast year. Sometimes it worked, but sometimes it didn't.... http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/forum6/2.html (http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/forum6/2.html)
Absolutely. And you may find that after the US has a rally, like yesterday, Tokyo rallies..like today. ;)

saraho wrote:
Absolutely. And you may find that after the US has a rally, like yesterday, Tokyo rallies..like today. ;)



I find up .59% on the 500 and up .27% on the Nikkie, dubious.

Europe down across the board.

Even dead cats bounce.

Dr_Dubious wrote: saraho wrote:
Absolutely. And you may find that after the US has a rally, like yesterday, Tokyo rallies..like today. ;)

I find up .59% on the 500 and up .27% on the Nikkie, dubious.

Europe down across the board.

Even dead cats bounce.

Deadcats bounce but leopards don't change their spots. ;)

du·bi·ous-Of questionable character: e.g. dubious profits.

saraho wrote:
Deadcats bounce but leopards don't change their spots. ;)

du·bi·ous-Of questionable character: e.g. dubious profits.



Interesting. I would not consider that a rally. A rally to meis when you surpass where you were before. Missing where you were before is called a lower low also called a downward trend.

It is a loser's gain to get caught up on a one day gain when for the week you are down. Example S&P 500 down 1.63% two days ago and get all giggly like when the next day it is UP .59% -you arestill down over 1%. At least in my dubious mind.

Loser's gain - LOST profits, while thinking you are getting ahead.

Even in a downward trend there will be (so called) up days.

Dr_Dubious wrote: Even in a downward trend there will be (so called) up days.

As Aristotle noted many years ago, an up day is an up day is an up day.;)

If one anticipates that such a day will occur, and is correct, one may profit from this occurrence.

Your statement of a "downward trend" is IMHOrather vague and of little value. One couldargue that there will be up days within downward trends within long term bull markets. Based upon that equally vague statement, what is one to do? Some will trade every minute. Others will trade once a decade. We all attempt to profit from the trends that we anticipate, in the manner in whichwe view them.

Of course, for some of us, it's a permabear's world after all..

[MacKenzieiii]

Can someone explain to my simple mind how the EAFE is up at close yesterday but the I fund drops almost 1%? I know they arn't always the same but that seems like quiet a difference. Is there some better indicator of I that I can watch?



EDIT: Nevermind found this http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/forum14/93.htmlWhich I guess explains why thing somewhat.

saraho wrote:
Of course, for some of us, it's a permabear's world after all..



I call it capitial preservation. If I wanted to **** my money away I would go to a bar. I am an investor not a speculator.

If I am going to lose my money I want to wake up with a hangover and a stranger, not a depleted TSP balance and a negative attitude about somone trying to hold on to their hard earned money.

But to each their own.

[Rolo]

Dr_Dubious wrote: I am an investor not a speculator.

A wise style.

Dr_Dubious wrote: If I am going to lose my money I want to wake up with a hangover and a stranger, not a depleted TSP balance

LOL!

Dr_Dubious wrote: I have been trading commundites futures and must say have been doing nicely this year. Up over 400% since the start of the year in that account. :D

I call it capitial preservation. If I wanted to **** my money away I would go to a bar. I aman investor not a speculator.

If I am going to lose my money I want to wake up with a hangover and a stranger, not a depleted TSP balance and a negative attitude about somone trying to hold on to their hard earned money.

But to each their own.

You ought to write a book, MT. Call it,

HOW TO TRADE COMMUNDITES FUTURES FOR CAPITIAL PRESERVATION.

Hey, I'd take a look...(in the library) ;)

[SystemTrader]

Dr_Dubious wrote: I have been trading commundites futures and must say have been doing nicely this year. Up over 400% since the start of the year in that account. :D

But to each their own.





400% since the beginning of January??? You should enter a contest:

http://www.worldcupadvisor.com/

You'd blast away the competition with that kind of return. Then, with all the press you'd get, you could make more money managing accounts, writing newsletters, conducting seminars, etc. then you'd know what to do with...

Up for the challenge?

Or at the least, go to www.elitetrader.com (http://www.elitetrader.com) and start announcing your tradesreal time in a journal. Lots of vendors and big names there--you'd get noticed quickly with those results.

Just one question...where's the Commundites Futures Exchange? I don't think it's in Chicago... :D

You buy futures contracts as far out as you can and do not get greedy and sell them. I started with $3000 and have a little over $11,500 now since I started in early January. I am did not mean to brag but all the basic resource metals are doing well.

saraho wrote: HOW TO TRADE COMMUNDITES FUTURES FOR CAPITIAL PRESERVATION.

Hey, I'd take a look...(in the library) ;)



Personal attack.

SystemTrader wrote:

400% since the beginning of January??? You should enter a contest:


This was something I wanted to try with $3,000 of my ROTH money. I should not of brought it up. Sorry I got excited. I took a pretty good hit today. The basic metals such as; cooper, zinc, nickle, steel etc are working for me. I know there is strong demand for these materials worldwide. A couple days ago China came in and bought a bunch up and my return went to 465%. I should of sold then but got greedy and took over a $1,800 hit today. So I just sold them all and locked in the gain. Now I will like my wounds and do another contract next week after I have time to recover.

Does Saharo attack everyone? Geez.

[Rolo]

saraho wrote: ...COMMUNDITES...
Hey, saraho, weren't the Commundites in the Old Testament?

Sorry I misspelled. I was tired when I went back to fix the board was down. Now the board is up I am over the time limit to fix my mistake.

Sorry.

[Rolo]

Dr_Dubious wrote: Does Saharo attack everyone? Geez.

Hey, you're the one who made her whip it out! bwaha!

Every post I have made it seems that way.

Seems like this is a board to share ideas not force your ideas on others and they do not agree to belittle them.

I will just avoid in the future (options - ha ha).

I don't even know the terms and I was in there buying contracts.

Was a good run while it lasted.

Dr_Dubious wrote: Seems like this is a board to share ideas not force your ideas on others and they do not agree to belittle them.

I will just avoid in the future (options - ha ha).

I don't even know the terms and I was in there buying contracts.

Was a good run while it lasted.
Hey Tom,

What is the deal here? Seems to me that yourbanning for life of those who disobey the rules is, in actuality,a slap on the wrist followed by a succession of new pseudonyms. It's a sad joke.

What are you talking about?

I will just agree with everything you say.

That I fund looks like a winner to me too, happy?

Looking back through your posts you are not doing to well for the year. SORRY. Do not take it out on everyone else that has another point of view.

Can I ignore Saraho's posts? That would be a great feature here.

You will find if you have a board that agrees with each other and copies each other. The board greatly underperforms the market but everyone is happy slapping each other on the back how MUCH they are going to make next week.

Since I have joined this board I have Saraho following behind me. What is the deal?

Leave me alone and I will leave you alone. I am trying to exchange ideas and learn. Sorry I posted with you.

Thank you! Go pick on someone else, please.

[Rolo]

Dr_Dubious wrote: Looking back through your posts you are not doing to well for the year. SORRY. Do not take it out on everyone else that has another point of view.

saraho hasn't taken anything out on anyone.

okay, well, this one time...not at band camp, unfortunately...she took some stuff out on me, but it wasn't like it wasn't unwarranted...the degree was a bit much, but, hey, I believe in overkill, too, so I guess I can appreciate that...but you know what? we discussed things intelligently even though we had totally differing points of viewand we're cooler with each other than before and we have fun and respect each other.

The trick, D-Dub, is knowing when to act like an adult and when to be a kid.

Dr_Dubious wrote: Can I ignore Saraho's posts? That would be a great feature here.


Yes. You can. Don't read them!

saraho wrote: As Aristotle noted many years ago, an up day is an up day is an up day.;)

If one anticipates that such a day will occur, and is correct, one may profit from this occurrence.

Your statement of a "downward trend" is IMHOrather vague and of little value. One couldargue that there will be up days within downward trends within long term bull markets. Based upon that equally vague statement, what is one to do? Some will trade every minute. Others will trade once a decade. We all attempt to profit from the trends that we anticipate, in the manner in whichwe view them.

Of course, for some of us, it's a permabear's world after all..



Two examples just in this topic.

Leave me alone, I will leave you alone. I want to learn and exchange ideas and not get caught up in this crap that is a waste of my time and everyone else on this boards time.

Ta

[tsptalk]

saraho wrote: Hey Tom,

What is the deal here? Seems to me that yourbanning for life of those who disobey the rules is, in actuality,a slap on the wrist followed by a succession of new pseudonyms. It's a sad joke.

For one thing, I never said anything about banning for life. The bans can be lifted if I decide. As of now, Markettimer is still banned. I also deleted another account he created earlier. You seem to besuggesting that Dr_Dubious is MT,and it is getting more obvious that it is,but I was giving him the benefit of the doubt because I didn't have concrete proof although the IP addresses are very suspicious.

You may think this is a sad joke but take a look at your posts. You both seem to have to getin the last word and end up in an endless loop. You were meant for each other. :D He is asking you to leave him alone. If you do, andhe leaves you alone, I will let this go. You both add a lot to the board butI don't want to have to play babysitter. His posts are informative and they only turn ugly when someone attacks. Just as you would do. I don't have an ignore button on the site yet. You'll both have to control yourselves.

Remember, two of the rules are "*Do not annoy the moderator(s)."and"*Do not annoy the moderator(s)." :x

[Spaf]

tsptalk wrote: Remember, two of the rules are "*Do not annoy the moderator(s)."and"*Do not annoy the moderator(s)." :x

Ah, is this like http://www.smileys.ws/sm/grinning/00000043.gif

[Rod]

NOW, HOW 'BOUT WE BEGIN TALK'N 'BOUT THE (I) FUND?!?:oo

I'm remaining 50% invested.

How about everyone else???

[Spaf]

Rod wrote: NOW, HOW 'BOUT WE BEGIN TALK'N 'BOUT THE (I) FUND?!?:oo

I'm remaining 50% invested.

How about everyone else???





Rod....The question is now: Will the market go bullish?

We have been in a trading range. Now we are in position to reclaim the bull. Monday should decide if we break through or not?
50% seems good to me, with a monitoring of the Monday AM market. If it fizzles, well back to the G-fund. If it flys, well what ever your risk tollerance can take.

Monday will be a desider, if the investors show up with the money. Watch the AM show, thats what I'll do!

Good luck and regards. :) Spaf

[Mike]

I have concluded that the market is a tease. It gets agonizingly close to a high, then it unleashes the hated pullback.

That I fund just keeps climbing. I'm hoping the C fund mimics it at some point here (nearly $3 cheaper per share! :shock:).

[ou81200]

The one day I went into the I fund last week, I took a hit. I then went 50/50 in the C& S fund. That's where I'm sitting right now. I made up for the loss I sustained in the I fund, but missed out on some gains.

I guess if the market was more predictable, we would all be millionairs:D.

[tostige]

The best strategy for todays investor is to fund your tsp at 5% because of the current tax struture. Most TSP participants can achieve a 15% tax bracket right now, whereas in the future with our triple deficits future tax brakets will have to again increase dramatically. So when you go to pull your money out of TSP it will be taxed at a much higher rate. It only makes sense to fund at 5% because of employer match. Any extra money should be used to open a ROTH self directed IRA at todays pre-taxed low income tax rates and when you retire you withdraw tax-free money, even if income tax brackets hit 50% it won't matter. Even better it will be possible to withdraw a little TSP (now taxed at retirement) and withdraw a little (Now tax-free at retirement) to blend yourself into a low to medium tax bracket. As far as the I fund bashing, I can't believe you do it. Lack of countries is understandable, but the results speak for themselves: best return among the funds!!!! Period. $$$$$ going down for the foreseable future means even if the FTSE and NIKIE just stay level you will make money on the currency gain. Act NOW, open a ROTH with $3500.00 for 2004 and you can put $4000.00 in for 2005. It's your future. P.S If you want you can buy Brazil through a stock symbol RIO or Australia through BHP, or oil tankers through FRO. All have had good runs so do some DD before you invest, but all are plays on China.

Opening a Roth takes just minutes at Scottrade and can be monitored online.

[IBD Fan]

The I fund looks promising. See my posting in short term market outlook. Im in for 50%.

I be selling my 50% Monday. Going back 100% G.

Mr Bubblestalks to the Congressional Budget Office on the Hill Wednesday am.

If someone actually asks him a "budget" question we could have a good sell off.

I will take my .01 in G on Tuesday and peek my head up (and yes I am not laying down :cool:) from time to time.

I fund has had TO good of a run for me. Locking in a profit.

[IBD Fan]

I plan to keep my I fund at 50% for a while.

[Rod]

IBD Fan wrote: I plan to keep my I fund at 50% for a while.
Same here. Today should be another great day for it.:^

Good luck!
:^

I think the internationals will profit take tonight. I have shorted them with half my SIRI gains.

Only time will tell.

[Show-me]

Dr_Dubious wrote: I think the internationals will profit take tonight.

Same here. Good luck!:^