Market Comments

April 10, 2008


TSP Fund share prices as of: 04/09/08
Fund - G Fund F Fund C Fund S Fund I Fund
12.40 12.24 15.37 18.34 23.22
$  Change - +0.00 +0.05 -0.12 -0.29 -0.12
% Chg day - +0.00% +0.41% -0.77% -1.56% -0.51%
% Chg 2008 - +0.98% +2.60% -7.19% -7.33% -6.22%
  L2040 L2030 L2020 L2010 L Income
17.27 16.63 16.05 15.21 13.42
$  Change - -0.12 -0.09 -0.08 -0.04 -0.02
% Chg day - -0.69% -0.54% -0.50% -0.26% -0.15%
% Chg 2008 - -5.32% -4.48% -3.60% -1.62% -0.37%

Today's Comments (Short Term Outlook)                             Printer friendly

Which way, and TSP limits

Stocks continued to pullback from the overbought condition, and we will find out soon enough if the current support is going to hold.  The small caps were hit the hardest dropping over 1.5% yesterday, and bonds (F-fund) rallied nicely.

The S&P 500 is now sitting just above the 20 and 50-day exponential moving averages, as well as the recent inclining support line.  It is now forming a rising wedge, which is actually a bearish formation that tends to break to the downside. 


                                     Chart provided courtesy of www.decisionpoint.com

Other than that, nothing has changed except that the NYSE is no longer overbought, but rather is sitting in neutral territory, as are many other indicators. 

We have a lack of positive news and low volume so the market is devoid of a stimulus to get it in gear.  Earnings season will be in full force shortly and that will help determine where we go next. 

TSP Trading Limits

Yesterday was the end of the comment period for the Federal Register to limit interfund transfers.  The folks at TSPshareholder.org did a great job keeping us informed, and their petition ended up with just short of 4000 signatures.  I'd like to thank them for their efforts. 

The TSP did a nice job as well, making anyone who actively managed their account come across as the bad guys.  After sending out a few warning letters in January, they ended up restricting 549 accounts from trading online; making these folks use snail mail to make any interfund transfers.  Pretty drastic measures.

This data has been explained before before but I just wanted to show it again to let you see just how much the TSP is going to save now that our accounts are limited to 2 to 3 transfers per month, during one of the most volatile periods we have see in over 5 years.

We all know that the S&P 500 is actually down 8% since the end of 1999.  It ended 1999 at 1469 and yesterday it closed at 1354.  That's over 7 years with no gains.  From some of the polls we have taken here, there is a large portion of our readers who will be retiring in the next 10 to 15 years.  Many of them will be FERS employees who will be relying heavily on their TSP account balances to meet their retirement goals.  The market could do very well in the coming years, but if instead it is flat to down, the government may have an interesting situation on their hands when people opt to stay on because they have not saved enough money to retire.  Depending on the market can be very risky. 

In 2006, Mike causey did a radio interview with the then executive director of the TSP, Gary Amelio.  The two of them talked about how foolish a small group of frequent traders were, trying to time the market.  They watched the 146 traders back in 2003 I believe, and decided they were losing money.  They talked about the new websites that were popping up to talk about the TSP, and Mr. Amelio basically said, market timing was "nonsense", and "I wish we could shut them [the websites] down."

Back then they wanted to shut these websites down because they thought, "the substantial majority of them [market timers] lost money."  They have changed their tune since then, as many people are doing very well timing the market, and are now focusing on the costs being the problem.

Here is a chart of the TSP expense ratio from 1988 through 2006.  It looks like there was an increase in 2003, but you can see that for most part, the expenses have been declining each year.   For the record, TSP Talk started in January of 2004.  In 2006, the expense ratio was .030%, or 3 basis points.  That is very low for a fund.

 
                                       Source http://www.tsp.gov/rates/tspexpenseratio2006.pdf

So, you would expect to see huge increases in costs to cause the TSP to make drastic changes, and to go so far as to restrict accounts of those trading more than 2 or 3 times per month.  I'm not sure exactly what this 2007 administrative expenses figure includes, but it is what is posted on the TSP website.  It shows that costs were down to 0.015% or 1.5 basis points, and in fact each fund did better in 2007, than the index they tracked. 

        
                                      Source http://www.tsp.gov/rates/fundsheets.html

That means they somehow came out ahead.  Again, that is all of the information I could find on their site, and perhaps the folks at tspsharholder.org can explain it better than I can, but something doesn't seem right.   Meanwhile, there are 549 participants that can no longer make transfers online, and told it could take 10-15 days to process their snail mail requests.  If anyone needs it, here is a link to the TSP's Form TSP-50 to process interfund transfers by mail.

It's a shame.  I was so very "gung ho" the TSP when I started this site four years ago, and excited to spread the word about this great plan and its potential.  Yet the TSP has looked upon us with discontent almost from the start.  I thought I was helping participants but I ended up being investigated after the TSP contacted my agency about TSP Talk linking to the share price page on the TSP website and including information from their site on this one.  They did not like that but did not contact me directly for months.  They went right to my agency.  That was when I first realized my persona non grata status.

If they do in fact implement the two transfer limit as proposed, I will strongly consider cutting my contributions to 5% to get my agencies match amount, then move the rest into an IRA.  I will also find out if there is a way to move any of our money that is currently in the TSP, into that IRA.  I feel we were misled.  I have contributed a lot of money over years with the understanding that I would have unlimited transfers available if I needed them.  Now that the rules have changed, I feel we should have the right to make a one time rollover without penalty.  I wish things could have been different.

I really hope they will read the comments that were sent to them and make some kind of adjustment.  The 2 (or 3) transfers is just not enough.  That is one buy, one sell per month.  I would say 4 or 5 would be sufficient.  Or, keep them unlimited and charge a transaction fee to cover the costs.  If it's the I-fund transactions that are causing the problems, limit the I-fund transfers only.  There are many alternatives that have been proposed so I hope they take them into consideration before making a decision that will affect us zealous TSP participants the most.

By the way, all three of our premium services have complied with the transfer limits so as to not put the subscribers accounts at risk of being restricted.  While the limits made the services approach the market differently this year, they have been able to outperform all of the individual stock funds to date, with RevShark's services beating all of the funds making only a few well timed moves:

2008 returns through 4/09/08:
G Fund F Fund C Fund S Fund I Fund
0.98% 2.60% (7.19%) (7.33%) (6.22%)
L 2040 L 2030 L 2020 L 2010 L INC
(5.32%) (4.48%) (3.60%) (1.62%) (0.37%)
       
RevShark Fred Ebb TSP    
3.59% (3.11%) (5.79%)    

I mention this because some subscribers are cancelling because they believe the limits will make it impossible to time the market.  Limits won't make things any easier, but it is not a deal breaker. 

I'm still concerned about the market right now.  Trader Fred tells us there are signs that the smart money is starting to pick up some stocks, and that tends to happen on the way down.  They don't always pick "the" bottom, as they will likely buy the dips slowly, but they will also sell the rallies until the trend does change.

That's all for today.  Thanks for reading.  See you tomorrow!
 


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